OU quarterback Landry Jones returning for senior season
by Jordan Esco on Jan 5, 2012 4:16 PM CST
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PrintSo much for waiting until the January 15th deadline.
Landry Jones has announced through the university this afternoon that he will in fact be returning for his senior season.
"I want to accomplish the goals that I set before I got here, and there is still a lot more to do," Jones said. "I want to make sure I’ve exhausted every effort in that area. And I want to be a senior. I enjoy being at OU and with my teammates and look forward to graduating with the guys that were in my class when I got here."
"That’s the ultimate goal for anyone who plays football," Jones said. "I’ve thought about that since I was a little boy. It would be a great honor to play in the NFL and that goal will still be there when I finish at Oklahoma."
With a relatively small senior class departing from the 2011 team, Jones likes the prospects for 2012.
"We hope to have another opportunity to make a title run," he said. "Most of the offensive line returns and we have several receivers and backs return too. We’ve also got a lot of guys back on defense, so we’re confident that we can be a strong team."
As you'd expect, Coach Stoops was very pleased with the decision.
"We know the positive influence Landry has on and off the field with our team," Stoops said. "We’re excited that he’s coming back to build on what has already been an outstanding career. We expect another great year from him, and like the fact that he’s determined to be even better."
I know this won't make every OU fan happy, so feel free to hash things out in the comments.
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well crap the bed
not exactly what I was hoping to hear.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Yeah LANDRY! Glad you're back...
Drew Allen transfers…
Bell takes over before end of the year.
uhhhh Softball season?
I dont know what to look forward to : (
Let's hope LJ is a team player who lets the back ups (OUr future)
Get lots of playing time without the attitude he displayed at Baylor, or the frustration of not getting all the kudos.
by OU JJ on Jan 5, 2012 4:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I was ready for him to move on
But he really gives us our best chance for success next year. While he was a part of the problem he wasn’t all of it. There is a reason that he was the starter this year and there will be a reason he’s the starter next year.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Also a great chance of
Freshman year 4.0. Not sure I can go through this again.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Get ready for the
the annual August earf***ing we’ll get from Stoops about all the improvement Whitney Hand’s boyfriend made during the offseason.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
really, it is ^THIS ^
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
You're right
with the way he’s regressed toward the end of the year this year it could happen. Sometime in the offeseason in a workout it may “click” and all the things he’s capable of come out. There’s no point in being negative about him coming back now because we’re stuck with it.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
I think people should feel free to speak their mind
I get what you’re saying, but if people aren’t really excited about this, they should have options other than clapping harder or shutting up.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
Thats not what I was saying
I wasn’t saying everybody should just be happy about it now and not have anything negative to say at all, I was trying to say there’s no point for me to be negative about it now.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
haha thanks, I won't need any help most of the time though
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Ok Superman, I am not about to STFU,
and HFJ will have to prove it to me, every play of every QTR, of every game before I clap my hands for him. This season he was indeed the proverbial bum. Until then I will write they way I fell about HFJ. The onus is on him now to PROVE IT.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
that was directed at me and nobody else
he misunderstood one of my comments, he wasn’t saying that everybody has to be happy and if they’re not they shouldn’t talk, you misread his comment bro.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Superman did reply to your comment, but he did not mention a name
I didn’t misread it, I understood exactly what he was saying.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
he was saying everybody has the a right to say what they want
and that they have more options than to either clap harder or shut up.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Yeah
If anything, I was defending scarab and other people who have been relentlessly negative about Landry. I disagree, but I think they should feel free to express their negativity. That’s what this place is for.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 6, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Regardless
Bob will say it happened, a la Gabe Lynn. He sure was good this season.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 6:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Being the best QB in practice might make you the starter,
but it doesn’t necessarily mean your the best game day QB. Sadly, until our backups receive some sort of opportunity we will never know.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
Really this is good news
For 2012 anyway. I do hope we can get up big and get some more late game reps for Allen and Bell to get them in shape for 2013, though.
I was planning on being a fan in 2013 too....
I was kinda hoping we could work toward the future.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
the problem with that is Stoops
You should know by now that he doesn’t pull staters till way late in the game no matter what
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Not really true
He pulled Bradford and White plenty early in blowouts.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 5, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
he hasn't done it in a while
especially the last couple of years
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
And because of this
I think the team is in a world of (bleep). This was the year and they wasted it. Now we get round two.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 5:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
'deep doo doo' are the words you are looking for, ;-)
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
With White and Bradford
we found ourselves so far ahead at times that he had no choice but to pull them. His inclination is to NOT pull his starters.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
I used to think that his inclination was to pull his starters too early
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 5, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe I have a short memory,
which is not really a bad thing these days.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
I've definatley never accused him of that
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
In 2006
We started a guy who earlier flamed out as QB and moved to wide receiver. We had a pretty good year that year, even considering the bowl game.
50/50
At first I wanted the Bell era to start, but Landry will give us the best chance to win.And having a seasoned QB has to help with recruits (especially WR’S).
Why all the hatred!
While LJ is not perfect, he’s a pretty darn good QB. This year was rough but you can’t put it all on Landry. I remember all to well that we had some big injuries and the only reason he didn’t throw more TD’s is because Heupel went to Bell inside the 20. Some of those INT’s can be placed solely on the young and inexperienced WR’s and some great defensive plays. He is not perfect by far, but you don’t get to be a heisman candidate and first rd pick (possibly) by being as bad as most everyone commenting says he is. Not only is he an outstanding young man, he is like a few have said “our best chance at winning” next yr. bell is not the #2 anyway, so would you rather have Drew Allen throwing with minimal experience or Landry Jones? bell will be the back up nxt yr and will likely get in more in the second half of games for more experience and, since he redshirted, can start his last 2 yrs.
I don't put it all on Landry
but his is a key position and he’s proven time and again that he lacks the leadership and ability to take this team to the next level.
Sure he’s an outstanding young man, but that doesn’t make him an outstanding QB. As far as him being a Heisman candidate, how many votes did he get in the Heisman race? He was only a candidate until we got deep into our conference schedule. And we can’t blame his flaming out in the Heisman race on the rest of the team, Griffin won with three losses on his resume.
As far as him being pulled inside the 20, there’s a reason Jones served as Bell’s “fluffer” in the second half of the season.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
I also believe
Mel Kiper said Landry would be better off coming back for his senior season as there is much he could still learn. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for a “1st rounder.”
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
As for Mel
He did say that, however, he would have been the 3rd QB on the board. I’m guessing taken by Seattle or someone like that in the first rd.HFJ will have the entire offseason to work on chemistry with the other receivers and improve his footwork. Other than the osu game, which was a debacle, he did pretty good. The man loses 3 games and the sooner nation throws himUnder he bus…not to mention, that in 2 of those losses, it was the D that lost it, not LJ. He has something like 4 or 5 TD’s against Texas tech, and it was the d that lost it, and a Bone head timeout call that lost the Baylor game for us. OSU is all on Him, but let’s all give him a break and get behind him with some support.
Oh...
And Heupel getting cute w/ the bell dozer.
All you had to say was "Heupel"
Could just leave it at that. Very disappointing campaign from that guy.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 8:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll agree with that all day and twice on sunday
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
I'll get behind Landry when the time comes
I forced myself to at the beginnning of the this season and I’ll do the same next season. My problem is that I feel like Landry Jones has peaked. I haven’t seen the marked improvement you would expect from someone with unlimited resources and tremendous potential. The same can be said of Roy Finch. Both of these guys dissapointed me this season. Why does it seem Jones has hit the ceiliing? Is it his work ethic? Is it heart? Maybe he’s talented but he’s just not a gamer. I really don’t know what it is. The only thing I can say with certainty is that there has been only limited improvement from 2010 until now.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
You TV reception or seats must be really bad
did you ever notice the little dance routine that 9 times out of 10 ended up with a ball being thrown way off target? How about the Tech game, remember that one? He lead them all the way back to the locker room, now that is leadership. So now he is going to get a other years experience at our teams expense. HFJ is 2 or 3 games shy of a full 3 years he has enough experience, losing Broyles should not affected him that bad. Remember he played with Stills all last year. He couldn’t even get him the ball when Broyles was healthy. If he must come back (ugh), I vote to Bench him.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
I think you forget though. If not for HFJs poor decision making in the red zone the belldozer never has to be used in the rz.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
^this^ teacher, ^this^
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Time to get a supply of yuengling and jack daniels next year. Not only will it be freshmen 4.0 but so much for going back to a power run game.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 4:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
How can you not be exited about his return
i dont understand why any ou fan would want our best shot at winning games to leave because landry is our best shot. come on people get it together
Yeah
And that one entire passing TD in four games was also awesome.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 5:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well, they did score 11 rushing TD's in those 4 games.
Yes,Landry was bad at OSU and so were the rest of the team also.
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
And Bell gets not time at all and on top of that we have totally wasted Drew Allen's college football career
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
you can't say that
Nobody wasted his career, if he was the better QB he’d be playing. I was all for Landry going pro and starting over, but I believe if Allen or Bell ran all phases of the offense better, they would have been the ones playing.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Allen was so close to never seeing the field we will never know what he could have done
Bob and crew did that.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
I can't buy that
IF he was beating out HFJ in practice he’d be playing, I just can’t agree with you that he should be playing just so we’d know rather or not he was better.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
how many times in the past 2 years has OU been up wth a good lead and HFJ in until the last 2 minutes? How many times?
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Way too many
I’ll agree with you on that all day long, for the life of me I don’t understand why Stoops doesn’t play the 2’s more than he does. I’ve complained about that constantly, i’ve even mentioned that in this thread already.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Landry Jones holds over 20 OU passing records!
how could you want to put OUr team in the hands of an unproven sophmore?
I swear my allegiance to the crimson and cream, and lay down my effort to honor this team. The bell always awnsered, Ill fight through the pain and lift up my brother! To honor this game! I stand in the shadows of champions past and guard every inch of this hallowed grass. I train to remember although i may bleed. We live by the code, of the crimson and cream. Theres only one Oklahoma.
I will take my chances on an unproven Bell or Allen anyday,
because of what Jones has proven to me.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Because LJ is a 4th yr freshman
by OU JJ on Jan 5, 2012 6:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This, this, this
A bajillion times THIS
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 7:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And I have 20 real silver dollars that says he stinks it up again next year.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
For all the Landry bashers out there
Landry has 3 Bowl wins, one a BCS bowl
2 Victories over hated Texass.
20 passing records see above….
Just saying…..
Bottom line he will give us the best chance to win the Big 12 next year and get to a BCS bowl. Blake is still unproven as a passer(hopefully he get some passing reps next year) but now he will be an important weapon in the Offense overall.
Personally, I am going to stay positive and hope he has a great year next fall!
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
Enjoy that
Don’t know if I’ll be posting much anymore cause I’m so pissed.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 5:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Please don't do that Chief,
If you leave, I may by default get the “biggest pessimist, complainer, sky is falling, whiner title!”
For now I’m content with just being in the top 5 around here.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
I think that's a great start!
There’s one or two others around here too, but I don’t think they realize it!
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
yeah I'm with ya JJ
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
meesa here and believe me if HFJ shows any sign of Bad Landry I will become the real town Crier
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
To be honest, I'm much more concerned about the defense
It was the defense that cost us two losses, not Landry Jones.
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
We have a serious problem with our defensive scheme that must be addressed,
with Jones we have a player who doesn’t improve from year to year. His underachievments have nothing to do with the offensive blueprints.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Amen. It’s called any pressure or if my 1st read isn’t open I’m going to panic and force a throw.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 6:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
would disagree the horrific starts by the offense in the tech & baylor games PUT the defense in bad situations.
this opportunistic defense has always preyed on OU getting a lead & making the other offense press.
No, you have to be able to score,
D is great but the PUKEs in Stoolwater did this year withg a D not as good as OU’s. How would you play on the D if you knew that Mr. Dancer was going to go 3 and out about 54 or 6 times in a row? Seriously, records schmecords, we all got them and they buy you nothing.
Ask The King, he knows what records can buy you.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
5 or 6, at times it did seem like 54 :(
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
I disagree with OU's D being as good as OSU this year.
OSU generated more Turnovers and OU’s D was torched too many times deep especially in the last 5 games.
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
I'm pretty excited about his return
I think he gets a bad wrap quite a bit. Is he the greatest QB to ever wear the crimson and cream? Absolutely not but he certainly isn’t as bad as many make him out to be. He’s been handicapped by a depleted and under performing receiving corps and Heupel did him no favors with the Bedlam game plan.
You can’t blame the emergence of Bell on Landry as much as you can an inept rushing attack which also hurt the passing game this year.
Bottom line, this is Oklahoma’s best chance to return to a BCS game in 2012. Blake Bell is good for one aspect of the game and that’s running the ball. He’s third on the depth chart when it comes to actually passing the ball and that says a lot right there.
Agreed
Sam and Jason were not perfect either.
With Griffin, Blackmon and Weedon gone, its good to have Landry back next year.
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
I agree in part
Landry is a great talent and at this point would be a hero to Sooner fans if he could stop playing like a frightened kid. One would think he would start getting past the freshman mistakes long before now. I just feel like if he hasn’t shown improvement in that area by now, then he probably never will…..and I have been a big defender of his this past year. However, he does bring back a lot of experience with him. Wonder what this will mean to Bell.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Jan 5, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
100% agreed
Hope Bell sticks around. Bob’s less than ringing endorsement of Blake’s bowl performance was already low-blow #1.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 7:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Can't say I'm excited but I am happy he's coming back.
Landry can be a good QB if used correctly. I can’t take a 4 or 5 loss season next year and that’s what we might be looking at if we start one of these unproven guys. The sample size is small but so far Allen and Bell have not impressed my passing the ball one bit.
by BoomerWolverine on Jan 5, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
A real player can get it done all the way to the NC and win it!
Think 1985, Think Jamelle Holieway, Think never played a college game until Aikman went down.
You don’t need a 4th year player(freshman) to win.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
I was a huge Jamelle fan.
I called a friend last year and Jamelle answered their phone. He just happened to be in the same restaurant. We talked football for a few minutes…pretty cool.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
In practice
Remember, Bob LOVED Lynn, Harris and Nelson in practice. Not one of em lived up to the hype.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 7:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think we should go to a power run game and let HFJ throw the ball no more than 30 times a game. I think he can be a game manager but definitely not someone who will carry this team on his back. And BELL better be able to throw some next year.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 6:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I hope we have the personnel to do that.
Assuming Whaley recovers 100%, and Clay develops into a reliable #2, and the offensive line improves (and there’s no reason to believe they won’t), this might be exactly what we see next season. If we continue to put the ball in Landry’s hands and ask him to win the game for us, it’s going to be another long season.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yes it will be. And everyone who is excited check HFJs stats without Broyles. That’s what we have to look forward to if we don’t mix up the offense.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 6:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't necessarily agree
Stills failed to insert himself as a #1 threat. Jaz played well but had some issues that causes a suspension and then he got injured. Miller was an absolute bust and for whatever reason the coaches wouldn’t put K. Jackson on the field.
Its hard to be successful as a quarterback when you don’t have receivers. That doesn’t take all the blame off Landry but it certainly wasn’t a one man show.
I agree I’m more referring to the errant and panicky throws he makes under duress or when his 1st read isn’t open.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 7:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And not to mention his lack of emotion and leadership on the sidelines. I’m not saying you have to scream and yell to be a leader. But if you are a quiet leader then you have to lead by example ( see Ryan Broyles). He’s none of those and has made the same exact mistakes for 3 years. Why all of the sudden would he just change?
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And not to mention his lack of emotion and leadership on the sidelines. I’m not saying you have to scream and yell to be a leader. But if you are a quiet leader then you have to lead by example ( see Ryan Broyles). He’s none of those and has made the same exact mistakes for 3 years. Why all of the sudden would he just change?
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What are you basing his leadership on?
Do you keep track of his film study time? Are you there to see if he is the first to or last off the practice field. I like Broyles but I cannot evaluate his leadership qualites because we dont see them. I think with Lewis gone Jones will be more vocal and seeing how players responded to Bell when he got all rah rah, Jones may do more of the same. Bradford certainly wasnt a talker, White neither.
"Are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?"
Nope but did you see them fire a ball into triple coverage under pressure almost every game? Did you see them panic when their 1st read wasn’t open? He can watch as much film as he wants that doesn’t change his happy feet and panicky throws under pressure.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 7:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And if he was staying late at practice I don’t know what he was doing but he took a step back this year.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 7:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
he forgot to look at the clock and never realized practice was over.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
And I saw him complete some of those throws.. and before you get a chance to say it,, to OU players>
He has made some remarkable throws and can put the ball where it needs to be much of the time. I watched the texass game again last night and he really threaded the needle on some of those throws. Could he have made some better decisions? Certainly, every QB could. His throwing it high I think are due to mechanics. His bouncing around on his feet in the pocket, mechanics also. He has shown some real moxie the last two years with huge wins in Dallas against Texas and Nebraska, Florida State, KSU, OUS in 2011. ANd I am sure he checked down through his reads more often than we realize.
"Are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?"
And I agree with you he can make any throw with relative ease. Imo he doesn’t have the intangibles. He seems lost on the sidelines. Hell I named my youngest son after him. But I’ve seen him make the SAME exact mistakes for 3 years and I don’t believe he will stop making them, especially without Broyles. Unless we go to a power run game with play action mixed in there. And I don’t see that happening with all the wr commits we are getting.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 9:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
and we run play action two or 3 times a game. Points don't add up to very much
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
You get it!
I am beginning to think a lot of people have drank too much HFJ koolaid
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
If I were Stoops EVERY position would be up for grabs next year. This team needs an attitude adjustment badly. Anyone not putting in the time and effort to improving will drop on the depth chart. That includes HFJ. Let him get hit a little in practice see how he reacts. And our offseason should focus on being more physical at every position. Let the o and d linemen line up and maul eachother. If our d sees our o line mauling people in a game don’t you think the d will respond in the same way? I want to see a physical, mean team next year not a finesse unmotivated team.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 7:04 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What do you people mean he has "peaked"?
I am not sure you can say a player has peaked at the college level because other than baseball, football is a TEAM sport. The parts are only as good as the sum. Jones has room to improve and I don’t think the players around him have reached their potential either. Still< Reynolds. Whaley and all those incoming freshmen are not even close to being polished position players. How many times did we lament about WRs dropping passes? And, as a person pointed out several posts earlier, the offense score 30+ points in two losses and the D stunk it up. Jones keeps getting compared to Bradford but Bradford had more play makers around him and a better O-line. Jones coming back is good news and I bet this being his last years to impress NFL evaluators, establish his OU legacy, having a more experienced OU coordinator and being the man this team will look up too will be produce better quarterbacking from Jones. Furthermore, now that Stoops knows for certain he will need to replace Jones next year and to protect him somewhat as a way to honor his decision to return, I would bet we will see more of the backups when and if OU gets big second half leads.
"Are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?"
By "peaked"
I’m saying that I haven’t witnessed significant improvement since 2010. In fact, he still has some of the same negative tendencies he had in his first season. Furthermore, has anyone considered that maybe the reason our receivers not named Broyles haven’t progressed as expected might be because of Landry Jones? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s just a thought, because we all know there’s a lot more to the position than just throwing the ball.
Anyway, I’m not saying there hasn’t been any improvement, I’m just saying he hasn’t met any kind of reasonable expectations over the last three years. That to me says that he’s pretty much hit his ceiling. If Jones indeed has not peaked, please show me the light and I’ll promise to keep an open mind.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe "plateaued" is a better word?
But I think you’re likely correct.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 7:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
To say he has plateaued
is to imply that the potential for improvement still exists, whereas peaked on the other hand has a much greater negative connotation as it suggests that the potential for improvement does not exists.
Hmmm, let me think on it.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, fine, he's plateaued.
But it is a very large plateau, like the Tibetan Plateau or something. And he’s slowly trudging across it with his shoulders drooping, his head down and that ridiculous look he gets on his face when he throws an INT.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
right answer!
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Don’t you think its sad he has 2 personas? Good and bad Landry? And people wonder which one will show up during every game?
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 7:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
its not good landry & bad landry, IMO its just bad landry now, that is who.
Every now & then he takes a chill pill & good landry is around, but not anywhere near the majority of the time.
I'm just tired of him being in constant deer-in-the-headlights mode
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 7:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you. Anyone else think its ironic he has 20 passing records and we all aren’t here rejoicing his return? I think he has as much potential as anyone but he continually makes the same mistakes and shows the same patterns.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 8:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He has 20 passing records cause he is the only one who started 3 years!!!!!!
Omg!!!!! Even the single game records only a couple were sam’s. You think hybl or white ever threw 48 times in one game? In the rain? And 30 degrees….. No no no
I'm glad someone finally put that out there, geez!
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I said around the tech game & there about 3people who had a cow.
Of course he has records. And before 1999 OU threw every lunar eclipse or so. How many attempts u think Cale gundy had for a career???? Prolly what it took Landry 2 years to get….
In an entire extra season he has only 4more TDs than Sam
In 2extra years he has 11 more than white. That’s 12 a td per game…..
2 right answers in a row!
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Not only that
I’ll do you one better; he’s the only one that’s PLAYED for 3 years. And before anyone chirps about Bell, I’m talking legitimate, significant snaps.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You tend not to get injured
so long as you keep your feet moving.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
It had to be close
OSU really got to the OL, but aside from that, I think they gave up right around 10…not exactly sure though; maybe 15.
I vote for this thread to be retitled
“Landry Jones hate thread”
Then again, you can’t mention Landry in any vein without JJ, SoonerGoneEast, SCKSChief, ohiosoonerbaby, or scarab blasting him. It’s actually made me completely quit talking about him on this site… until now, that is.
by KratosWasASooner on Jan 5, 2012 8:27 PM CST reply actions
I didn't blast him. Read my first comment. It's the 4th one.
I do hope he doesn’t get frustrated much like he did at the Baylor game.
I'll second that,
motion carries, now we decide to let HFJ run the math class.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
I haven't blasted him at all.
I’m just stating fact. He’s underperformed and underachieved. Do I blame him for all of our losses? Not at all, but this thread is about Landry Jones returning for his senior season, it’s not about our defense or anyone or anything else.
And I hate that you feel this way. I appreciate everyones opinion, even if I don’t agree. It’s the varying opinions that drew me to this site to begin with.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
And the truth is
I’ve always been a pretty positive, glass half full kinda guy, but JJ, Chief, OSB and Scarab have really had a negative influence on me.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry you can't handle criticism of your boy
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Apology accepted?
First off, I wouldn’t necessarily call him “my boy”. Next, criticism is stating pros and/or cons of a certain player. What you guys are doing here is a textual gang rape. I do like Landry, but don’t get me wrong, he has areas he can definitely improve on. Where I believe along with you guys that Landry has problems dealing with pressure, sometimes doesn’t show adequate leadership, and had a significant drop in productivity when Ryan Broyles went down, I don’t feel the need for my opinion to be read every time somebody mentions Landry. Negative criticism or opinions are more than fine with me, I just don’t enjoy reading them over and over and over. I get it, you don’t like Landry, at all.
Landry is a good QB. He is asked to do more for his team than all the QB’s in the nation sans Andrew Luck and maybe a couple others, and it’s a tremendous amount of pressure. One thing that made me glad to have Landry was watching a Michigan game earlier in the season. Almost every pass Denard attempted, I found myself thinking “Wow, that was terrible, Landry would have thrown that much, much better.”
Honestly, I don’t even know why I started this. If Nate Heupel’s very well written and researched Appeal to Reason post had zero effect, then my comments are surely in vain.
by KratosWasASooner on Jan 6, 2012 4:17 AM CST up reply actions
Listen
I am PAST giving #12 (Whitney Hand’s boyfriend is a better title actually) credit. The bad/detrimental far outweighs the good anymore. Until I see nothing but good, I will reflect what I see. Bottom line is; he is not Denard Robinson. He was recruited because of his supposed ability to command an offense. Not just any offense, but one that was based in the passing game. He’s supposed to be able to handle it. He has shown, time and again, that he cannot.
So, if you want me to blindly pump the sunshine cause he’s a great human being (which he is) or because he has prototypical NFL QB measureables, it ain’t happening. That doesn’t get it done. I watched enough QBs look better than him in the bowl season to know my growing disillusionment is not misplaced.
Lastly, this rant is based in the culture of entitlement and mediocrity that Bob is breeding in Norman. #12 has never truly shared time with anyone, but Sam. I honestly don’t think there’s ever been a real “race” at this position since he’s been here. At this point, I believe what Bob says about as often as I believe our president (which ain’t a lot).
by SCKSChief on Jan 6, 2012 7:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Never said anything about pumping sunshine.
by KratosWasASooner on Jan 6, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
I know
but essentially that’s what happens when one stops seeing the negatives and only focuses on the positives.
I didn't focus on the positives either.
by KratosWasASooner on Jan 6, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Chief, what do you call it when one ONLY sees the negatives?
Rumor has it that Texas is about to sign a huge corporate sponsorship deal for the Longhorn Network. They just have to decide which brand represents them best: Dyson, Eureka or Hoover.
jte.
HEY-OH!
Also, I’ll quit messing with you chief. That last comment was trying to get a response out of you.
by KratosWasASooner on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
It's that he has had 3 full years. That's the crux.
He has conducted himself with dignity & class & tht is something to be said of in this atmosphere right now.
I'm pro-Landry
but the negative talk doesn’t really bother me. At the end of the day, we’re all just really passionate fans with differing points of view.
And there’s no real arguing past a certain point – obviously the anti-Landry crowd isn’t going to be convinced about his merits unless LJ wins the Heisman or the national title.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 6, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
Probably right
I could be swayed if he’d just stop looking scared all the time and quit making stupid decisions. I don’t need 500 yards and 5 TDs per game. I’d take 250 and 2. I want this team to win and #12 hasn’t really been a giant help in that category since Broyles went down.
I think I had in mind
a comment from someone (maybe scarab) that we need to see improvement from Landry on every single play next year, or he doesn’t get credit. To me, that’s an impossible standard.
Maybe I’m more where you’re at. I mean, I’m pro-Landry, but I obviously recognize that he needs to improve. I do think that if the receivers can improve even slightly (ie, catch the ball when it hits their hands, not give up on routes), it’ll help immensely.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 6, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Very angry with Stills and his quitting right now, too
So much quit on this team.
That being said, #12 has to quit doing dumb stuff. If that happens and he stops being scared, he will, by default, improve on every snap of every game and we will ALL be happy.
They would not be then either....
Its the Danny White after Roger Staubach syndrome.
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
ANd we all were gald when wilson left, and we got stuck with the caca play calling of heupel. I am sure we would be doing the same if Jones left and Allen proved to be mediocre.
"Are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?"
Believe me if I blasted him cc would ban me. I’m just speaking on how I’ve seen him play for 3 years.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 8:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I’ll throw this out there right now. If he shows VAST improvement next year I will eat crow and get on here and apologize.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 9:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
every play of every quarter of every game. Until then, well you know my answer
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
I’m right there with ya.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
In the end this could work out well if we establish a viable
2 QB system kind of like LSU has. If Bell knows he will likely be the starting QB the next year, he may still be motivated in such a system. Allen, not so much.
By now the coaches have got to realize Bell running the ball is the most potent offensive weapon in our arsenal…..yet largely untapped.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
Stoops would never go for that
Unless Bell beats landry out the only way he see’s the field other than in the Belldozer is mopup duty, Stoops is not the type of coach to go for a 2qb system, i believe I’ve seen him say if you have 2 qb’s you have no qb’s
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
He did say that,
but he pretty has a two QB system right now.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
He has to do something
I hope there’s the shift that happened at Florida in Tebow’s sophomore year.
by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He has it now to a degree
The question is how much will they expand it. They already expanded from just red zone to 3rd and short situations, and this package consistently produces. Regardless of what Stoops said before, one can’t just simply ignore a package that is producing such outstanding results almost every time it is tried.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Jan 6, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Drew Allen...
Haven’t seen him play, but I think this is generally good news for OU. He has zero mobility, he struggles under pressure, but he’s very accurate given enough time, and with most of your OL returning next year this is a net positive for the clips. Integrating some more running game, including draws and shovel passes into the offense should be Heupel’s move.
If I see that GD sideways pass again I will literally scream!
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Fantastic!
Whatever…We kind of knew this was coming. I guess I’ll just hope for the best.
He’s not as bad as some make him out to be. He has a strong arm and, usually, an accurate one. He’s not, and never will be, Sam Bradford.
In my opinion, the problem w/ Landry isn’t so much Landry as it is that the coaches put too much on his shoulders. They seem to expect him to be Sam but he just isn’t. We need a stronger running game. We need an offense that incorporates more shifts and sets and utilizes more of our true playmakers. Putting the game into Landry’s hands and telling him to throw it 60 times and win the game is a failed strategy. Hopefully the coaches will change the offense for next season, place a smaller burden on Landry’s shoulders, and he’ll be more effective.
Either that or we try and convince Whitney Hand to turn pro early!
+1
See OU’s game plan during the RRS 2002. Draw plays with Griffin slowed the Texas pass rush. See 1m33s and 3m18s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S7B8LZG12E
Watching that game...
We debated what the guy in motion was doing. He taps an OL player every time he goes in motion, then a draw to Griffin.
Trent tapped the center each time as he went in motion
Rumor has it that Texas is about to sign a huge corporate sponsorship deal for the Longhorn Network. They just have to decide which brand represents them best: Dyson, Eureka or Hoover.
by It'sTheVoice on Jan 5, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Q always under control, picking his way
then bursting when he found a seam
Rumor has it that Texas is about to sign a huge corporate sponsorship deal for the Longhorn Network. They just have to decide which brand represents them best: Dyson, Eureka or Hoover.
by It'sTheVoice on Jan 5, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Nah.
Y’all are still elite. We’re the ones that fell on our asses the last two years. Word is Mack’s going after a pretty good JUCO quarterback. Also, Gideon’s graduating. These two exciting developments should immediately improve our game.
juco qb
doesn’t have to really good to be a drastic improvement to what you guys are stuck with right now
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
I like to give grief about Gideon.
My FB status on the holiday bowl game day was
4 more years! 4 more years!
That guy...
talked crap to a UCLA receiver after tackling him in the first quarter. We were down 34-12 at the time, so it was a total embarrassment. He was already on thin ice after ‘The Drop’ against Texas Tech in ’08. Adrian Phillips is the truth, though.
Yeah, my husband went to old miss but huge Texas fan.
Something about living in texas…. Anyway, yeah he tended to run his mouth too much on the field
That was a brutal one...
I had a bad feeling after Savage got a running start on the kickoff return that we were going to lose that game. Then Hybl gets an encroachment penalty, first and goal, touchdown, halftime, third quarter was game set and match.
Yeah but UT went up early.
But OU pulled with in 3 (maybe) just before half & you could see the emotion die in Texas going in the lockerrroom
I have seen noticeable improvement in LJ
every season that he has played. Among other things, 2 years ago, he never would have led the comebacks that he did this year or at the end of last.. I also think that if we provide him with receivers who run routes properly and don’t drop the ball on a regular basis, along with some kind of a real running game, he will prove to be a great asset next season as well.
He has improved in some areas,
1)his appearance, he now has a young man type of beard and not the pimp mustache
2)his foot work has improved from the shuffle to the amazing two step in 4/64 time
3)he has brought back the amazing ‘disappearing-from-the-hand’ football trick
I am sure there are several other areas of improvement as well, just can’t think of them at the moment. Feel free to chime in.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
I started at QB on my varsity HS team for 4 years.
My first 2 years I sucked at decision making pretty bad. My 3rd year was ok. But it wasn’t until my last year that everything clicked and made sense. Hopefully something like this can happen with LJ. He’s never been perfect, but he gets a lot more criticism than he deserves.
Follow on Twitter @LLAdamJ7
This time next week I'll be in LA, gotta figure out where to take a picture in the crimson & cream.
I reminds me of being in NYC & our hotel in times square was looking straight out across to the big video board. The first morning there was the morning the usatoday rankings came out. Big huge screen with LJ picture & OU number one….. Sigh….
I was just there a couple of weeks ago.
Get your pic in front of an orange tree. The BCS NCG will be there next year. Our odds of winning it were 18-1 BEFORE anyone new Landry was coming back. We’re in like Flynn now!
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 5, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
by "there"
I mean at the Orange Bowl of course.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 6, 2012 12:01 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
the beach might make a nice pic...
a nice 80 degree January day, you on your crimson and cream surf board…
I was just there a couple of weeks ago.
Get your pic in front of an orange tree. The BCS NCG will be there next year. Our odds of winning it were 18-1 BEFORE anyone new Landry was coming back. We’re in like Flynn now!
and 200! do I win a prize?
and I’m ok with Jones coming back. That should make us the favorites to win the Big 12 next year, and it looks like we’ll be a top 10 team as well.
As far as the future 2013…a LOT can change that far out….and yes it’s just one more year.
I hate "one more year"
Very tired of “there’s always next year, gang!”
by SCKSChief on Jan 6, 2012 7:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You should be used to that, oh denizen of Arrowhead
Rumor has it that Texas is about to sign a huge corporate sponsorship deal for the Longhorn Network. They just have to decide which brand represents them best: Dyson, Eureka or Hoover.
I know, right?
This is why I’m so pissed at OU right now…they’re usually all I’ve got to hang my hat on!
Well, you can join me in being a Rockies fan
where our rallying cry is : “Hey, at least we aren’t the Royals”.
sure it’s not the greatest rallying cry ever…….
Can we get a new front page story going?
I think the dead horse has been beaten enough already, time to move on. :-)
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Yeah, too quite
Funny, he threw this article out there like raw meat to a pack of wolves, then slinked off into the shadows to watch the melee.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 6, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
I think he climbed a very tall tree
well above shouting distance, and is watching the carnage through a sniper’s scope.
Probably wearing a ghilly suit…
"Some men just want to watch the world burn."
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 6, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
I think Nero slept with his own mother and eventually murdered her.
I was thinking more along the lines of Bruce Wayne speaking about the Joker.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 6, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Or maybe it was Alfred that said that, I can't recall.
It’s a great quote either way.
by SoonerGoneEast on Jan 6, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
You guys make me laugh :)
I think I’ve been pretty clear with my opinion on things. I think Landry is who he is and while I don’t believe he’ll get much better w/ another year, I don’t think there is any question he gives us our best chance to win games next year. And at th end of the day, I want this team to win as many games as it can every year. IMO, Landry gives us the best chance to do that next year.
Now that said, if they use Bell as sparingly as they did this year I’ll be pissed. Especially if they don’t start to develop him as a passer. Landry coming back could be a good thing for Bell in the long run b/c it will allow them to bring him along slower than just throwing him right into the fire. Of course, that means these coaches actually have to do it and I’d be lying if I told you I’m confident that they will.
Well. You know we are left being "negative" & "blasting" on our own...
Lol
by OU JJ on Jan 6, 2012 10:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not worried about what those in burnt orange are saying ;)
There is a reason many of them have said they want Landry to come back and it’s not because it helps our chances of beating them, again, next year.
Texass fans should have alot more to worry about than Landry coming back
alot………
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
by SoonerMike on Jan 6, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Like the weak-armed QB in the Under Armor game last night
Note to DGB: this kid MIGHT be able to get it to you on a bubble screen…just sayin’…
Rumor has it that Texas is about to sign a huge corporate sponsorship deal for the Longhorn Network. They just have to decide which brand represents them best: Dyson, Eureka or Hoover.
Maybe. If he doesn't stare em down...
by OU JJ on Jan 6, 2012 3:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed, 100%
Let me repeat again… OUR DEFENSE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN A NATIONAL TITLE OR CONFERENCE TITLE PERIOD, END OF STORY.
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
THIS
The only loss you can really pin on Landry and the offense is the OSU game. If your defense gives up more than 40 points, it’s more on them than anyone else.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 6, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
7 n the first half repeatedly putting the struggling d
Right back on the field. Not even about points, couldn’t muster a 1st down
by OU JJ on Jan 6, 2012 1:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Offense was going in for a score and Ryan had that freak fumble down at the 18 yard line
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
The O scored 31 pts in the second half
This should have won the game, Defense could not stop Seth Dog enough allowing 17 pts.
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
ummmm 571 total yards and 41 pts.
OU D created ZERO Turnovers…….
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
It helps to bring bullets to a shoot out
Just saying
by OU JJ on Jan 6, 2012 4:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
we can go round and round on this
536 total yards, 38 points is pretty good. We’d have 41 if Hunnicutt made that first field goal, 44 if he had made the short field goal in the 4th quarter. By any reckoning, that’s a lot of bullets.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 6, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Tech had at least one drive of 50 yards or more in each quarter.
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
he just over slept yesterday!
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Not to get us off that bashing Landry Jones track
But this could also play a role in OU’s pursuit of DGB.
Landry coming back lead Arkansas’ Tyler Wilson to put in for an NFL eval to see where he stood. If he were to decide to put his name in the draft, suddenly OU could look a lot more enticing. A bit of a reach admittedly as it would still only be one year with Landry before we’d be in basically the same situation as Arky (or Texas for that matter), meaning DGB playing with an inexperienced QB, but it certainly wouldn’t hurt our chances.
LJ holds the record for the most td's ever thrown in a single game at OU,
He has passed for over 5 td’s in 6 different games—three times this year.
He has 8 of the top 11, yes 8, single game passing records, including 4 this year with what ccm accurately described as an “underachieving” group of receivers and not much of a running game.
Not one single game was lost this year solely because of his performance, and several were won, in large part because of his play.
More than the return of any other single player, LJ’s return will benefit OU next season.
Well
Sam should have those records, right? Because a QB that good doesn’t come along that often.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 6, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
LJ had more yards in 2009 and 2010
Than Sam did in 2007 and 2008. And again, not saying that LJ is the best QB we ever had. But if he’s in the conversation with the likes of Sam Bradford, he’s definitely not a bad one.
by ClarkusKentus on Jan 7, 2012 7:42 AM CST up reply actions
Sigh. Just can't help it. Do yourself a favor look up career attempts/comp etc
Yes of course LJ holds all those records. It stands to reason that he would hold single game records. He’s throwing the ball 2&3 times more PER game than anyone else. It’s not like anyone else was asked to do that. Again OU threw the forward pass once every lunar eclipse until 99. They have steadily increased with Heupel to white. But then escalated with the addition of Kevin Wilson. Sigh. He altered it to a pass dominant. Heupel was going with a more balanced run initially. Injuries etc …. And the games were placed on LJ s arms.
Again : he’s gonna hold those records he has thrown more times per game. & season.
by OU JJ on Jan 6, 2012 5:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sigh. No he hasn't thrown 2 to 3 times more per game or per season...
LJ threw 562 times this year. in 2001 Heupel threw 553 times. in 2008 Bradford threw 483 times. That’s not anywhere near 2 to 3 times more per game.
Completion percentage is hugely related to receivers as well as, most importantly, whether you have a run game or not. That’s also why he has been called upon to throw more. Remember that the other qb’s had the luxury of a run game. Last year with just the glimmer of a run game LJ’s completion percentage was higher than any OU qb in history other than Bradford. Not too bad.
Besides, the point is not who can point to what stats. The point is that unlike the impression given on this site, his stats are excellent, he has the unqualified support of his coaches, apparently of the players as well, and the opinion of pro scouts is good. This tends to support the view that he is one of the better quarterbacks that we’ve had and that the endless bashing here is way overdone.
Again. 2-3 times per game more than anyone else does not JUST INCLUDE Braford & Heupel.
It includes ALL qbs….. OF course he has the records, they basically were non existent before Heupel. Paul Thompson who started 1 freaking year is in the top 8 to 10 in alot of categories.
and this year we have had NOTHING that resembled a running game!
How many passes during the first qtr of the Baylor hosing, what about the LOSUr St raping we got. If you throw 85 to 90% of the plays then Charlie Brown would have records as well. You do know who Charlie Brown is?… he’s Linus’ buddy.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Sam or Heuple or white
Any of them could hold single game passing records
Guess what they half over half of the top 10 of most of ALL the categories
why???? OU didnt have a pass game before 1999.
So could Gundy or Garrick McGee or Jc watts
Or dean Blevins had they been throwing the ball 40 times per game.
by OU JJ on Jan 7, 2012 7:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You forgot about the great Tink Collins....
"I feel fortunate.... It's just great to get another championship." Bob Stoops
by SoonerMike on Jan 7, 2012 9:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
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