OU Football - A very, very early look at 2012 (The Offense)
As a part of this way too early preview series, we've given you a look at all the individual offensive positions (QB, RB, WR, & OL) but the original goal of this was to look at the respective units as a whole. So that's what we're going to try and do here in more of a summarized/broad overview approach.
The plan is to do so via a projected two deep depth chart for the offense as well as some general thoughts on the the respective individual positions and players at those positions.
If you're anything like we are and finding any possible excuse to keep thinking/talking about OU football, get your fix after the jump.
First, we'll give you our projected depth chart. Then we'll get into some of the specifics of guys you do see included or some you may not. As always, if you don't see something you thought you might or think we missed something post it in the comments and we'll gladly address it. (Ed. note - the year of each player listed is what they will be at the start of next season)
Offense
Tyrus Thompson
Lane Johnson
Gabe Ikard
Bronson Irwin
Ben Habern
Austin Woods
Adam Shead
Tyler Evans
Daryl Williams
Derek Farniok
Brannon Green
Taylor McNamara
Jaz Reynolds
Trey Metoyer
Kenny Stills
Durron Neal
Kameel Jackson
Sterling Shepard
Landry Jones
Drew Allen or
Blake Bell
Trey Millard
Marshall Musil
Dominique Whaley
Brennan Clay
Now we'll give you some random thoughts in no real order of relevance.
For me, even with Landry, that is not an offense that can win us #8. But that goes with my belief that we're not a legit national championship squad next year. You're looking at some pretty serious "issues" at TE, RB, maybe WR, and if Landry does leave a big time question mark at QB.
Based on some comments, I guess Matt doesn't agree that it's likely Landry comes back. He's obviously got his reasons for thinking so, but I'm of the opinion that he'll be back so the QB depth chart remains unchanged. You may or may not have caught it, but in Stoops' comments the day after the bowl game he said that he didn't expect Bell's package of plays to increase if Landry comes back next year. I for one hope that was just coach speak or Stoops sticking up for Landry (like he did when he said Landry should have been the offensive MVP and not Bell), because if that is true it would be a really stupid decision IMO.
So much to my surprise, looking at that above, the unit I feel the most positive about would be the offensive line I believe. I guess with the exception of left tackle just because of the inexperience, but they could play around with Daryl Williams at left tackle and Lane Johnson at right. But an experienced returning line that could excel in both the run and pass game would be a great foundation to build this offense on in 2012.
Four true freshman on the two deep. Wow. Now admittedly, we might have given a couple of them the benefit of the doubt (Neal/Shepard), but at the same time their inclusion isn't some great reach either. I still think both will be too good to redshirt and I'd almost guarantee you Neal, even as a true frosh, plays some kind of role in the return game.
We included Musil over Aaron Ripkowski at the backup FB spot just because the talk surrounding Rip's injury sounded pretty serious (no clue why Stoops hasn't just come out yet and specified what it is if for no other reason to put the speculation to rest). We're hopeful he can come back next year, or just play football again at some point, but there is no doubt the coaches will be extra careful with him so as not to rush him back.
In my opinion, the RB position, at this point, is a pretty serious cause for concern. Look, I love Whaley just like all of you, but he'll be coming back from a pretty significant injury. Granted it's better that he didn't tear up his knee, but making a return from that broken ankle will still present a substantial challenge. Behind him is Clay who, while he looked improved during the Insight Bowl, still does not instill a great deal of confidence in OU fans. Then you have Roy Finch who either can't find a consistent role in this offense, the coaches can't figure out how to most effectively use him in this offense, or some combination of both. You've also got an incoming true freshman who was the top player in the state of OK and one of the highest rated RBs in the class of 2012. I still think OU signs a JUCO RB (they have offers out to several) to try and come in and play right away.
I can't wait to see what these WRs coming in can do, but looking at that depth chart this offense really needs Jaz Reynolds to be able to play next year.
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I'm optimistic about 2012
I think we are another 10+ win team. Baylor and O-state im betting have a down year. Texas still doesn’t have a QB, aTm is gone……who’s gonna beat us?
Well
KState, Okie State, Tech, Baylor…there are a few left. Who’s on our non-con?
This team needs to flip the switch. If they don’t, next year could be a 5-loss season.
K-State and Tech will be better next year. OSU and Baylor will be worse.
Texas will be better as well. TCU and WVU will be 2 of the top 5 teams in the conference next year (assuming WVU gets in in ’12). We also play a solid Notre Dame team in Norman.
I still think if Landry comes back we’ll be favored in all of those games. I don’t think we’ll win all of them though.
On a side note: the Big XII is going to get better by losing Mizzou and ATM and picking up TCU and WVU. I was concerned about staying and wanted to go to the Pac but this is currently the second toughest conference and looks to only get tougher in the coming years. This may turn out alright afterall.
Tech will most likely return to Lubbock....
a place we usually do not win.
I'm a Sooner Born and a Sooner Bred, and when I die I'll be a Sooner Dead!!!
If Landry comes back
I think we’re probably a 2-3 loss team
If Landry doesn’t come back, I think we could be a 3-5 loss team potentially
Who is on the non conference schedule?
IS UCF still on the schedule, or was that just a rumored option? Just wondering…trying to figure out which games I can attend next year!
Non-con schedule is not done
cause we don’t even know how many conference teams/games will be in the league as of now!
Date
That game is scheduled for oct 27th right?
I think that's what Redhawk said
ND had it on their schedule at, but OU has yet to confirm any dates for next year
Agreed
With everything.
RB is scaring me badly…as is the idea that Landry will come back and Bell will not see more snaps, plays or chances to throw the friggin ball. I’m also concerned about the TE position and the direction of this defense and the offensive scheme. Too many questions right now for me to feel confident going into next year.
I really hope next year is an improvement over this debacle of a season.
Essentially this is the 2011 offense minus Broyles and Hanna. Frankly, that's not too bad.
If Whaley is close to where he was before the injury then RB will be fine. Clay and Finch will both be a year stronger and I’m very excited about Ross. WR could be outstanding if any of Metoyer, Shepherd, or Neal live up to their hype. Jackson shows great promise while Stills and Reynolds will only be better. The line will be better. The QB spot will be as good or better (BTW, the Belldozer is out of the bag and here to stay. Gotta believe we’ll see more and more of it next year). TE is a concern, but Green will be a force from the get-go blocking and McNamara has serious receiving skills.
The offense is not the potential problem with the 2012 squad. That would be D-line play. If that can come around this team will be favored over every team it plays next year.
Oh, I almost forgot Millard in the run game. What a weapon. He has to be used more.
Whaley being "close" doesn't help this offense, IMO
I think he has to be what he was or more to make up for the pansy offensive line.
by SCKSChief on Jan 3, 2012 8:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No nag
I love this part of the “job”, conversing w/ fellow OU fans. It’s why I got involved w/ this blog in the first place. Don’t get what I said twisted, I’m incredibly excited for all the young talent this offense will have along w/ the expected returning players. Trust me!
Agree... the 2012 O looks promising
It doesn’t have to put up 40 points a game, as long as the defense improves. By and large Landry can manage a game. I’d be perfectly happy with 20-13 scores in OU’s favor… 13 of them, that is.
I believe Notre Dame comes to Norman next year. A lot of uncertainties in the schedule with the TCU game now a conference game and West Virginia’s uncertain conference affiliation. Central Florida may be in the works for a series.
This is where
It doesn’t have to put up 40 points a game, as long as the defense improves.
I think we could be in trouble. I very much agree w/ you on the 40 points a game part and would be totally fine if our scoring went down, but because of a more physically dominant run game and longer drives. Where I’m worried is w/ the defense for 2012, which I’m beginning to work on the write ups for those now. So stay tuned.
whats scary is the D
we are gonna have a pretty good offensive line next year and even with questionable running back talent you can succede as long as you have a good line. We should still be able to put up plenty of points next year as long as every one of the recievers doesn’t totally suck, and the backs don’t forget how to hit a hole. The D is where most of my concern lies, the D line especially.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Frank, t-lew & Fleming.. Any other big loss?
by OU JJ on Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hammer
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
Who played in how many games?
Tons of potential, nothing to show.
by OU JJ on Jan 3, 2012 4:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's not so much the losses IMO
I think we’ll be just fine in the secondary, actually damn good IMO. It’s our front seven that really worries me and that can make even a great secondary look bad. So while that may be our strength, our possible weakness could take away from said strength.
My thought is we can't suck any worse
by OU JJ on Jan 3, 2012 4:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm with you on that
the front seven with the exception of Wort is unproven at best. The guys who did get playing time that will likely be starters next year we’re unimpressive for the most part this year.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
my take on the upcoming season and summer practices
i think we will be ok our O line will be really solid and our recivers will do just fine because with all those bodys and possibly more coming i dont see why we couldnt find at least one standout in the summer and i also feel whaley will do great his SR season and alex ross sould get a little experiance under his belt and if he is as good as all the hype he is getting we will be just fine and with landry back we would be much more emotionaly prepaired and physicly but my only fear is blake bell is not even close to being the proven passer in my book he will have to really improve and turn some heads if landry does infact leave.
Roy Finch seems to be back in the doghouse
I saw Heupel screaming at him after a play during the bowl game, and his day was done. I think we are still strong and deep at RB. The O will be good, but can the D stay good?
I kinda wonder if he's one of the slackers?
by OU JJ on Jan 3, 2012 5:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm guessing you meant Gundy since Heupel is up in the booth during games
But I’ve read the about the same thing happening as well
The recipe for OU success
An All-American QB and an All-American defensive tackle and/or LB
Josh Heupel-Torrance Marshall
Jason White-Tommie Harris
Sam Bradford-Gerald McCoy
OU does not have a similar combination for 2012, I’m afraid, unless Bell goes all Tebow and McFarland becomes Godzilla.
I know this article is about the offense but since we are talking about the defense...
The front seven on D should be the strongest part of this team. McFarland, Walker, McGee and some highly touted red shirt freshman are at eDT. McFarland impressed the heck out of me against Iowa. he played like an angry man and made the Iowa guards look like kids. Washington and King at DE backed up by Grissom and Ndule (sp?) ought to be strong. Lewis’s injury showed more than some think. Bird at MLB, Wort in Lewis’s spot and Nelson becomes the safety-lb hybrid ala Clayton and Baker in years past. That sounds like a physical Defensive front.
About the offense. I would like to see the up tempo return. I imagine it was absent this year because it limits the number of plays the defense might have to be on the field plus it gave Heupel time to process and make play calls. Offense is the biggest question mark on this team. A lot of new playmakers need to emerge and Still and Reynolds need to pick it up and neither can be relied upon to be be either heathy or out of trouble. It will be interesting to see the character this team develops with Reynolds leaving and a lot of younger players looking to Jones to be THE offensive leader.
"Are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?"
Sorry, I meant with Lewis leaving. ..... And the rotten apples hitting the road.
"Are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?"
Good Job As Usual JT
Aaaaaahhhhh. I feel better now that I got my fix. Looking for long sleeve shirt now to cover the tracks. LOL
Man It’s going to be a long time til August!
by CaliSooner on Jan 4, 2012 12:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Sooners for 2012
Expect a down year. Every team needs to rebuild now and then, OU has good coaching and will be back strong as ever. Just give them time. The new tv network will help a lot.
The new conference with WV and TCU is a big help in making a strong conference.
The good news for OU rebuilding/reloading in 2012
is so are several of the other teams in the Big 12. TCU and K-state are coming back strong, but TCU is stepping up in competition. UT and Tech I think are on the up swing, but from pretty mediocre years. (I don’t think WVU, shows up in 2012 in the Big 12, though I know the conference is hoping to get that done)
It won’t take a great team to win the Big 12 next year.
My ranking of the Big 12 in 2012:
1) OU (homer pick sure, but we have as good a shot as anyone)
2) K-state
3) UT
4) Iowa State
5) TCU
6) Texas Tech
7) OSU
8) Baylor
9) Kansas
And the strength of our conference will once again be the middle of the pack. 4-7 you can put in hat.

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