New Sooners coach Tim Kish wastes little time hitting the recruiting trail with Davonte Neal in-home visit
Well, Oklahoma's latest coaching staff addition wasted literally no time in hitting the recruiting trail. On the same day he was officially announced as a member of the Sooner staff, the former Arizona DC was in the home of stud wide receiver Davonte Neal.
His film, uh wow! Whatever he may lack in size (5'10" 175) he more than makes up for and then some in straight speed. You can also watch his exceptional balance on the film above and his ability, even for a "smaller" guy, to absorb a hit, keep his feet, and accelerate in the blink of an eye. If this kid gets the ball in even the tiniest of spaces, it's game over. Much like the other Neal (Durron) in OU's class, Davonte Neal is a guy that could come in as a true freshman and make an immediate impact on special teams with his exceptional return skills.
Neal has stated that he does not expect to make a decision until after signing day, which is somewhat rare but well within the rules of recruiting. Wednesday, February 1st, is just the first official day kids can sign but they're not required to do so on that day alone. Neal currently holds offers from Arizona, Arkansas, North Carolina, Notre Dame, and Ohio State among many others. He has two official visits remaining, one of which will be to North Carolina this coming weekend and the second of which is to near by Arizona two weeks after the UNC trip. However as you'll see in the interview after the jump, Neal and his family may be rethinking that Arizona trip with Oklahoma's late interest and their connection with Coach Kish.
As usual, SoonerScoop with their exceptional coverage was able to get an interview with Neal's father, Luke, and got his thoughts on Coach Kish's visit.
"He (Kish) was announced yesterday, and he was here yesterday. He was here for about two and a half hours, it was great catching up with coach Kish," Luke Neal explained. "We have some history, being in Arizona and with him a coach at UA we had an open communication. Even in the eighth grade coach Kish was talking about Davonte, coach Kish has a good history with us; he is a class act.
"He is very personable. He is very family oriented and tells you how it is, I respect that out of coach Kish's character and his coaching style. We all like and admire coach Kish, he is not just a coach but more of a family friend."
In addition to Kish's previous relationship with the Neal family, the Sooners also have another unexpected connection to the talented AZ prospect.
"I think it's a great door-opener we had some limited knowledge of Oklahoma because one of my athletes that works out with me, Mossis Madu, he worked out with us last year and he is one of my clients that I work with," Neal explained. "We knew of Oklahoma because of him being here, but when coach Kish came in, Oklahoma was now more local to us and that's where it is now.
"There is a communication now, a dialogue now I spoke to Bob Stoops today, - he called me today and we spoke and I expressed my thoughts to him and he told me they want Davonte there.
"I told him the same thing we told coach Kish, we're excited to have the conversation going, it's a great start that is a national program, they have a lot to offer, and we're going to listen. Davonte is scheduled to take his last official on Feb. 10 to Arizona, but at the end of the day he has to decide what he wants to do.
"Coach Kish being in the situation, I'm not saying anything different, but it puts Oklahoma in a different light and it puts coach Kish in a different light.
"I definitely think that visit was set up with Arizona, it is definitely still intended to be taken but, again I can say that for right now."
Neal says the Sooners expressed interested in his sown as a receiver and special teams difference-maker. Interestingly the relationship with Kish gives his parents peace of mind about a school that they, otherwise, have little to know knowledge of.
According to Neal's father, there is little doubt as to why Oklahoma, despite getting in very late in the process, is now under consideration.
"Coach Kish being in the situation, I'm not saying anything different, but it puts Oklahoma in a different light and it puts coach Kish in a different light."
Couple quick things I wanted to address briefly before we end this. First, I've already read some speculation that an offer this late to another wide receiver is some kind of indication that the OU coaches know they're out of it with DGB. And while I can't definitively say that's not true because nobody actually knows what DGB is thinking, I do very much believe this is more of a case of OU's new coach having an "in" with the family and OU taking advantage of that fact by gauging the young man's interest. As you can clearly see from his film, Neal is the kind of player you make room for in a recruiting class. So don't just immediately write DGB off, though as we've said here for awhile Arkansas is still the likely favorite to land DGB.
Second, because I can already hear it, don't get carried away with the "See you moron! Still want to question Kish as a recruiter?" for the people here, like myself, who were vocal in our skepticism of Kish when the hire was announced. Obviously there is no denying the numerous positive things Neal's father had to say about Kish in that interview. And I don't doubt for a second that they are all true. But at the same time, this was a previously established relationship and while incredibly talented it's still just one player who at least for the moment hasn't (1) scheduled a visit yet or (2) committed. So while I'm definitely not saying Kish deserves no credit for this, try to avoid the knee jerk reaction of blindly singing his praises based on this one story.
Knee jerk reaction you say? You mean like when you had said knee jerk reaction to the hire and criticized the guy and questioned his recruiting ability before he had even stepped foot on campus?
Yeah. Exactly like that. ;)
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another small scatback...... humph
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
you have got the wrong person
I thought that was JJ’s title. Now I am included in that group as well? If so then I am with great company with you and JJ. Thanks for the invite.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
You are part of an elite membership!
We agree on much.
Hater.
by OU JJ on Jan 26, 2012 12:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
cool!
any idea who our next target is?
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Just roll with the punches
All will be revealed soon.
In accordance with the prophecy…
by SCKSChief on Jan 26, 2012 8:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I give that an Amen
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Looks like Ryan Broyles skills...
…with some blazing speed! OU could use a return man with some skills like that.
okie swag
by okie.swag on Jan 26, 2012 8:22 AM CST via mobile reply actions
+1
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Uhhh
“But at the same time, this was a previously established relationship” Is that not what a recruiter does?? Would that not be the same thing he would be doing for us?? I think for him to talk to a kid once he gets hired, and then for the kid and father to now consider a school that was not even on the radar speaks pretty highly of what the guy can do…
Or was this just all “LUCK”
Football, in its purest form, remains a physical fight. As in any fight, if you don't want to fight, it's impossible to win." Bud Wilkinson
I don't think it's fair to just call it luck
I mean the guy developed the relationship over the course of four years according to Neal’s father in the interview, so he had clearly put the work in. I also don’t think a parent would say all those things about a guy if they weren’t geniune. I think you’ve got to give him credit, I’m just saying it doesn’t immediately erase some of the recruiting concerns. Helps to ease them to be sure, but as I said in the post it’s still just one guy and it’s not like he committed last night or anything.
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Educate Me
is it “normal” for a linebacker coach to be recruiting a wide receiver? My presumption is that position coaches recruit to their position of responsibility. I realize there are exceptions when a coach may know a player personally. I understand the thinking of getting a player on campus and then changing their “position”.
Team FIRST, Effort SECOND, Talent THIRD, Selfish NEVER
He is (according to services) an athlete. Most project at cb.
I would imagine, not only do people recruit by position, initially they have a certain geographical area they cover, evaluate & gauge interest.
by OU JJ on Jan 26, 2012 10:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
To add to this
I wouldn’t qualify it as “normal” but w/ the unique situation him having that connection to the family I think they made an exception. The one name that everyone has mentioned w/ Kish and his recruiting is Gronkowski and he was obviously an offensive player as well.
Most times it’s by position/side of the ball, but occasionally it will be by area or something else like this.
"The less I know about other people’s affairs, the happier I am. I’m not interested in caring about people. I once worked with a guy for three years and never learned his name. Best friend I ever had. We still never talk sometimes." - Ron Swanson
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by Jordan Esco on Jan 26, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
To add to your information
It is quite common for coaches to have areas in the early stages of recruiting. Those coaches stay with the guys they recruit, but pass names on to position coaches to help with the recruitment of the player. Later in the game, the names tend to get divvied out by positions.
That’s what I know of it, but I was an NAIA school, so D1 might be different. Likely depends on the school.
Thank You to all
and that’s not a smart ass comment
Team FIRST, Effort SECOND, Talent THIRD, Selfish NEVER
Your welcome!
On a side note I would love to see JTEs favorite coach (mulkey) go down tonight!
by OU JJ on Jan 26, 2012 1:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
if only!
I’m not optimistic at all, but I’ll be watching. I can guarantee that!
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please don't compare to Broyles..
The all-time receptions leader. He is still in HS. Broyles work ethic after his frosh year was outstanding and propelled him to be great. Just bc the kid is of smaller size lets refrain from comparisons please. Or compare him to trey franks lol.
by mattsooner333 on Jan 26, 2012 8:38 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
More than fair
IMO, I think when people do this it’s not in terms of “they’re going to be as good as Broyles” but more in the sense that they have a similar game/style of play. And not that you have to accept it, but prepare yourself for it because incoming WR Sterling Shepard will probably be compared to Broyles his entire career.
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I agree with that
and with Matt too. When I say “this guy reminds me of (blank)” what I usually mean is that he seems to possess the same skill set. I’m not intending that said recruit will ever enjoy the successes (necessarily) of the previous player, but I see a lot of the previous player’s abilities in the recruit.
Nope..
Say way every player coming out is compared to somebody before…The next Walter Payton, The Next Adrian Peterson…So on and so forth…AD was compared to Marcus Allen all throughout collage, so its complimentary not trying to knock anybody
Its the style they play with, its the same body type..same general abilities.
Quit being a douche with the "Uhh Hello All time reception leader’ crap.
Football, in its purest form, remains a physical fight. As in any fight, if you don't want to fight, it's impossible to win." Bud Wilkinson
Steve... it's college (apparently you never attended)
You seem angry. You can compare players size, ability etc. with everyone. I’m just trying to keep perspective. I have no problem comparing types of players, but I just hope everyone doesn’t get caught up with expectations. I hope he’s great. Was OU not in on this kid before Kish?
by mattsooner333 on Jan 26, 2012 12:52 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Uhh sorry to offend you but
I think I was commenting on the kids skills when I compared him to broyles-nothing more. Believe me ryan will always be one of my favorite OU players-hes a well rounded person on and off the field but it’s ready to see the “on the field” comparison.
okie swag
by okie.swag on Jan 26, 2012 11:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
*easy not ready. Swype.
okie swag
by okie.swag on Jan 26, 2012 11:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
absolutely correct
The Gasman knew the game and scheme. He was hungry, wanted to excel and was willing to put in the work. I think the most innate ability Ryan showed on the field was his ability to make the first defender miss and get tons of YAC.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
This one previous relationship...
WTF do you think recruiting is? Its developing a relationship with players over time and then getting them to come to your school. He’s only been at OU for less than a week, so of course he’s using previous relationships.
Football, in its purest form, remains a physical fight. As in any fight, if you don't want to fight, it's impossible to win." Bud Wilkinson
How about looking at this kid as a db? Any chance he could play corner for us?
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 26, 2012 8:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions
My thoughts exactly
OU is awfully deep at WR…really need some DBs.
Also really need some DTs and LBs…
There is some talk of that being a possibility
It’s obviously very early in the process for him and OU, so hard to say if that conversation has even taken place yet. I think they’d do the same thing w/ Neal that they did with Derrick Woods and Daniel Brooks, which is give them a shot at offense first and then depending on how that works out consider them for defense.
Personally, I don’t really like that and we just saw an example (Justin McCay) of how easily that can not work in your favor but they more often than not they do what they have to in order to get kids to sign. And then hope they can work it out once they’re on campus.
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by Jordan Esco on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
I feel that
Out of all the WR’s in this class anyone of those guys can play DB. However, I think they all will get their shot at WR and whoever doesn’t fit that position or just doesn’t work out will be moved to DB. Besides Metoyer and Shepard all of them are versatile and can play defense
I worded that wrong
Metoyer and Shepard are versatile. What I’m trying to say is I personally can’t see those two playing on the defensive side of the ball
The two that get mentioned as DBs the most frequently
Are Derrick Woods and Sterling Shepard. I really think Woods brightest future would be at safety, but I want Shepard on offense 100%.
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by Jordan Esco on Jan 26, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
After watching this video
I think Devante Neal would be an AMAZING CB. He has ruthless press skills, good hips and good speed…not to mention hands. These kinds of press skills can revolutionize the way the OU secondary performs.
Couldn't agree more
He seems like a frustrating player to play against. Either way if we land him I like the fact we have the option to put him wherever
this kid could be special
but he will have to work for it
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Did anyone else notice the OL he was playing behind?
Can we get a package deal to get Neal and a couple or three players on the OL?
They were blowing up some big holes, sometimes there was nothing left of the DL.
You get it. It takes an O-line to get yards
A great O-line will make anyone look good, the last time OU had a great O-lin was in 1987 with Hutson, the Phillips boys, Greg Johnson and Bob Latham. They cleared holes for some of the smallest running back ever to play at OU. They were good enough that OU started a Freshman QB and kicked NU’s butt. On a Super cold day at that.
It helped to have a bone crushing defense as well.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Clearly you did not think as highly of our 2008 O-line as I did.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Jan 27, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
I know Bone crushers, real Bone crushers, bone crushers that don't take a single play or day off
That group in 1987 was a group of bone crushers. Did they lose games, yes. Did they ever lay out, no.
I can’t say that about a few of those 2008 players, and I admit we played a different game in ’87 than they did in ’08.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
You gotta remember,
It’ll be tough to get this kid to sign this late in the game.
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by Sooner4life33 on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I really wish I could get excited about this hire. But, alas, I cannot.
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by leatherneck1061 on Jan 27, 2012 9:59 AM CST reply actions

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