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Is this 'Venables to Clemson' talk serious or a ploy to get more money from OU?

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UPDATE #6: It's over. He gone.

UPDATE #5: Now both Dave Sittler and SoonerScoop (who is saying BV contacted them directly) are saying that Venables confirmed reports about Clemson are not true. Speculation now is that he's staying. This is crazy!

UPDATE #4: Roy Philpott who covers Clemson is saying on Twitter that "a contract for Brent Venables has been sent to the Clemson Board of Trustees for approval."

UPDATE #3: As pitbull (no, not that one. our pitbull, the talented one.) pointed out in the comments, Dave Sittler is at it again on Twitter. Part of me thinks this is just BV's agent using Sittler as a mouthpiece to pressure OU to upping their $$$ offer, but the other part of me wonders what good that would really do at this point. It's not like BV is still in Clemson or OU is unaware of Clemson's interest in BV. To be honest, at this point I feel like if he wasn't going he would have said so by now. Doesn't necessarily mean I think he's a goner now, but I did think it would have been resolved by now. If we don't hear anything by the end of the day today (Wednesday) IMO it could be a bad sign for him staying at OU.

UPDATE #2: Well now Mr. Sittler is saying (or hedging?) that a deal is not necessarily imminent because Swinney wants to interview Randy Shannon. He's also tweeting that there is a flight from S.C. to OKC for tonight which he's clearly assuming is Venables coming back to OK.

UPDATE: Well, it looks like I might have been wrong. If the talk of him meeting Clemson recruits is true then I'd have to think it's just a matter of time before his departure becomes official. I'll also say if this plays out as it appears it might, then there is no possible way for Bob to spin this in a positive manner. This isn't a lateral move, no offense Clemson fans but you're not in our league as a program, so I'm not sure how you can sell it as anything other than a guy angry enough to leave an employer that he's been with for 13+ years to take a lesser position.

Sure you're making more money, but when has anything you're read and/or heard from Brent Venables struck you as a guy who was in this for the money? Maybe he feels like his work here at OU wasn't getting him to where he wants to be (i.e. a head coaching job) which would be hard to argue against. He's had chances, but to date obviously hasn't been able to land that gig.

If this proves to be true, as a fan of Oklahoma I'll be pretty disappointed. While I absolutely respect a man's decision to do what he feels is best for him and his family, I can't help but feel he's leaving for all the wrong reasons. We'll see how things play out, but this latest development doesn't not bode well at all for Venables return to Norman.

If you haven't already heard the talk of Clemson coming hard after long time Oklahoma defensive coordinator Brent Venables, here is a quick recap.

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Earlier in the week Dave Sittler of the Tulsa World started spreading rumors on Twitter that several schools (Clemson, WVU, and Tennessee among others) were pursuing Venables. One by one all the suitors began to eliminate themselves with the most serious two remaining contenders being West Virginia and Clemson. Word came on Friday/Saturday that Venables had withdrawn his name from consideration for the WVU job. So now, here we sit with Clemson as the lone suitor according to reports. And a formidable one at that if the reports can be believed. Among the things being rumored of late are that Venables doesn't even have to interview for the job. Supposedly it's his if he wants it and yet another rumor is if he were to take it, Clemson would be willing to double his salary.

We heard late on Friday that both Venables and newly returned Mike Stoops had left on a recruiting trip together and now reports are that this "trip" may have included a stop in South Carolina for Venables to meet with Clemson officials. If they are to be believed, rumors are that Venables could come to a decision whether or not to accept Clemson's offer as soon as Sunday.

So with all of that, where does it leave us you might be asking. Obviously, at this point, only Brent Venables knows for sure but I've got a hunch this is more about getting a bump in pay from Oklahoma than it is about taking another job. Now obviously I could be proven wrong if news comes out Sunday or in the days to follow that Venables has decided to leave Norman after 13 years of loyal service. However, I just don't see that happening.

For several reasons actually, but one in particular that I've heard Carey Murdock of SoonerScoop bring up several times this week. Venables was originally in consideration for the Clemson job before they chose to go with Dabo Swinney. He has a good and known relationship with Clemson A.D. Terry Don Phillips. All that said, at least to some degree Clemson chose Swinney over Venables so why would Brent want to go work for the guy that Clemson chose over him?

I get the money part of it (if the rumors are true of course), but don't for a second think that Bob can't go to the OU admins and get a raise for his friend and fellow coach. Maybe it's not as much as Clemson is offering, but if it's money he wants he can get it from either university. So to me, it comes down to a simple question.

Is Venables pissed off, or insulted, or whatever words you want to use, about Mike Stoops return and his perceived demotion that he bolts?

I'd venture to guess that he and Bob have a good enough relationship that Bob will give him the time to explore all his options. But I also do not believe that Bob will allow this to turn into another Willie Martinez situation, allowing the thing to drag on and on. I'd expect, one way or another, we get some kind of news in the next couple days. If I had to guess I'd say he stays at Oklahoma, gets a healthy raise, then he and Mike get to work on putting some bite back into this OU defense.

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I was specifically wondering about whether Venables might harbor resentment

At sharing the DC position again at this point. That’s why I didn’t think the WVU job would make any sense, because he apparently would’ve been sharing the title there as well. Clemson appears committed to paying top-dollar for its coordinators, and Venables would have the sole DC title there, so that fits. I guess my question is whether Venables would feel like he might be left out in the cold somehow if the Stoops were back together. Would there be any reason for him to feel that way?

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 12:01 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Pulling for BV to bolt outside the conference.

Here is to hoping BV will leave the conference. Good timing to break in a new chuck wagon D-Co!

by CowboyKS on Jan 16, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

You arent real bright are you?

Or do you have memory loss?

by OU JJ on Jan 16, 2012 7:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

No and Yes

Rumor has it that Texas is about to sign a huge corporate sponsorship deal for the Longhorn Network. They just have to decide which brand represents them best: Dyson, Eureka or Hoover.

by It'sTheVoice on Jan 16, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm really not even sure what he's saying

I’m sure he’s insinuating something…but can’t pinpoint it. Hmmm….

by SCKSChief on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

with a screen name like Cowboy it stands to reason their elevator doesn't go to the top

The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.

by scarab on Jan 18, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

face, meet palm.

Learning to love the soft zone, 600 yards at a time,

www.cowboysrideforfree.com, the best Oklahoma State blog on the net (and also the drunkest)

by AUKingOState on Jan 18, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I was just on here like a week ago

I’m good, just busy fetching coffee and blueprints. How’ve you been?

Learning to love the soft zone, 600 yards at a time,

www.cowboysrideforfree.com, the best Oklahoma State blog on the net (and also the drunkest)

by AUKingOState on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I think at this point he's not going anywhere unless it's a HC job

He’s turned down several DC jobs and I just don’t see him uprooting his family for anything other than what he really wants.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 15, 2012 12:04 PM CST reply actions  

Brent Venables

He is currently still in Clemson from what sources say and has already met with some of our incoming defensive freshmen. Make of that what you will

by Derek Evans on Jan 15, 2012 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

and supposedly he was on the recruiting trail

for Oklahoma just yesterday. Either the sources out of Clemson aren’t true, or Stoops and Venables aren’t being truthful right now.

by ClarkusKentus on Jan 15, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Venables

Stoops went recruiting and lost Venables in Clemson along the way. Venables supposedly met with Swinney in San Antonio and then came to check out the campus. I’m pretty sure it’s just a matter of time. Venables has gone back to Oklahoma to inform his players he’s leaving…unless Bob Stoops offers him an INSANE amount of money to stay, he’s going to Clemson

by Derek Evans on Jan 15, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Money/salaries in sports is out-of-control

It’s inconceivable to me that Clemson could offer to double Venable’s salary – AND OU could/would not match that if they wanted to keep him, and I believe Bob wants to keep him. Problem lies in the astronomical salaries that coaches make – Bob at about $5M – and fans expectations that they should be winning national championships every/other year. Salaries are based on the market place and frankly have little to do with “winning” national championships. THAT IS DAMN HARD, regardless of salaries. If you have a great season, coaches are rewarded financially – right or wrong; look what gumby got for winning his first big 12 title and a bcs game, NOT a national championship.

Team FIRST, Effort SECOND, Talent THIRD, Selfish NEVER

by omsooner on Jan 15, 2012 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

Clemson Insider.com

is reporting that Venables has taken the job, according to the Tulsa World.

by Redhawk on Jan 15, 2012 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

read this http://clemsoninsider.com/

they say they were hacked.
Maybe true, maybe not. Maybe BV stays, maybe he doesn’t. Meh

I would like for BV to stay for at least another season but in my opinion he got hosed on this whole deal.

The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.

by scarab on Jan 15, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I dunno about being "Hacked"

but every indication is the story was premature. Smoke screen?

I mean it’s a job interview, and both sides have to really want each other, and neither side wants to look like it was turned down.

by Redhawk on Jan 15, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

smoke screen

I guess you could call it that…or maybe they just wanted to be able to tell his Oklahoma players in person. I’ve been a big fan of Venables for a while now. He doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who would want his players finding out via the internet. And plus I think these remaining “interviews” are just courtesy calls for Dabo. If I know anything about our coach it’s when he gets it in his mind he is going to do something, come hell or high water he does his best to do it. He wants Venables. This wasn’t an interview, it was a convincing trip. Show him around and all…the grand tour if you will.

by Derek Evans on Jan 15, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Time to turn the page...

And to use the money he was making (plus some) to hire Kirby Smart away from ‘Bama! Just kiddin’…or was I??

"Have you ever tried to count the stars? I have, there's like a hundred of 'em" - Mark from Roseanne

by ToatsMcGoats on Jan 15, 2012 4:37 PM CST reply actions  

I think there serious chemistry issues on this team.

Even in the context of coach to player. B4 the bedlam game would have said no way. Knowing some stuff that went on during the game & on the sidelines, maybe it’s accurate that he goes.

by OU JJ on Jan 15, 2012 4:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I think there serious chemistry issues on this team.

Even in the context of coach to player. B4 the bedlam game would have said no way. Knowing some stuff that went on during the game & on the sidelines, maybe it’s accurate that he goes.

by OU JJ on Jan 15, 2012 4:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I should have worded better, but I was on plane etc....

If you had said before bedlam that BV would be looking for a job, I would have said no way. After what happened at bedlam, it is more conceivable that he might be looking…in the is this still the right place for me to be way of thinking…..

by OU JJ on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

What things happened on the sidelines?

"Are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?"

by blaster1371 on Jan 15, 2012 5:56 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah there were coaches that had to be pulled off of Wort among other people.

All kinds of broken clip boards & stuff. I am not saying “sources”. Close personal friends that were shocked.

by OU JJ on Jan 15, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Recruiting will take a hit, but...

What’s the point in having 4 and 5 star athletes if we can’t put them in an effective scheme? I haven’t forgotten the disappointing defenses that Venables was responsible for so I can’t say that I’m not looking forward to this. True, we may struggle a bit more on defense for a season or so, but this is what we’ve needed for awhile now. Let’s get to it and get past it.

"Have you ever tried to count the stars? I have, there's like a hundred of 'em" - Mark from Roseanne

by ToatsMcGoats on Jan 15, 2012 6:56 PM CST reply actions  

Recruiting will take a hit but...

What’s the point in having 4 and 5 star athletes if we can’t put them into an effective scheme? I personally haven’t forgotten how dissapointing these past few defenses have been. Besides, he’s not the only person in the world who can recruit and I think that Mikey will do just fine as DC. This is what we’ve needed for awhile now. We may have to struggle for a season or so, but if that’s what it takes to get a top 25 defense again, I’m all for it. It’s better than suffering through bad defenses and having it all to look forward to again the next season. The winds of change that we desperately wanted to blow after the Tech, Baylor, and Okie Light losses are finally here. I don’t know about you, but I’ve been holding my kite for a while now. It’s time to get to it, and get through it.

"Have you ever tried to count the stars? I have, there's like a hundred of 'em" - Mark from Roseanne

by ToatsMcGoats on Jan 15, 2012 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

I don't disagree

But a lot of what Venables is doing was based off what Mike did. Aside from getting away from this stupid three man line, I’m not sure how much is gonna change. Mike was the one who started the LB/S hybrid and the 4-2-5, which is exactly what we’ve seen and what I expect to see going forward.

by Jordan Esco on Jan 15, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

The scheme will stay cause it's Bob's baby.

I just hope they find a better way to use it against the spread. These OC’s all have it figured out and we’ve seen what a decent QB can do to it if given time to throw or if he’s mobile.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 15, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't mean to post it twice...but the second one's better anyway.

"Have you ever tried to count the stars? I have, there's like a hundred of 'em" - Mark from Roseanne

by ToatsMcGoats on Jan 15, 2012 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

Still not sure I'm buying into him leaving

I guess I’ll believe it when I see it, he’s turned down an awful lot of jobs in the past. Granted the situation has changed and apparently clemson is offering some serious coin but I’m still not convinced. As others have said, if he leaves we’re losing a great LB coach and recruiter.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 15, 2012 7:52 PM CST reply actions  

serious coin

Clemson is reportedly prepared to offer close to $1 million for Venables services

by Derek Evans on Jan 16, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Well since 85%+ wanted Messiah MIke, I hope it works out good for the team

I’ll withhold any nasty comments about the D until I see the product on the field, 2 games after Texass.

The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.

by scarab on Jan 15, 2012 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

Doesn't really make sense to me

BV could probably get a decent head coaching job somewhere. Why would he make a lateral move (titlewise) to a less prestigious school?

by ClarkusKentus on Jan 16, 2012 7:38 AM CST reply actions  

IMO change of scenery, recharge the batteries.

Energize & step away from bob. If he makes a notable upgrade in Clemson, he can get that hc quickly. Again just IMO….

by OU JJ on Jan 16, 2012 8:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

change of scenery maybe

but recharge the batteries? I would think he’d have to take a year off from coaching to do that. You’re probably right that if he made an upgrade at Clemson, he’d get a good offer at HC somewhere faster. If OU improves on D next year, Mike Stoops will get most of the credit, not BV.

by ClarkusKentus on Jan 16, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Less prestigious

What do you mean less prestigious. Clemson history is full of tradition with 17 conference titles, 5 division titles,and a National championships. A top 25 puplic school in the country. And one of the best engineering schools in the country. One of the best on campus tailgatiging any where. With the biggest stadium in the ACC, seats 85k. And has been called, and is an SEC type school…. Less prestigious, REALLY!!!

by tigerpaw58 on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Not knocking Clemson

But OU has 7 national championships and 43 conference titles, including a pretty incredible run over the last decade. There are few who could make the claim that they have a more prestigious football program with a straight face. Sorry to say that Clemson isn’t one of them.

by ClarkusKentus on Jan 18, 2012 7:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention 47 straight wins. The most wins in the modern era.

5 heismans. The most all Americans. The most 10 win seasons. The most 11 win seasons. And the most weeks EVER as bcs #1. Do you really want me to go on? Clemson has as most prestige as say OU’s left pinky. But thanks….

by OU JJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

actually as much prestige as the toejam between a football players foot!

The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.

by scarab on Jan 18, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, really...

seriously…..when was the last time you went to Ames? ever?

by PA Sooner 95 on Jan 18, 2012 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank you for that presentation of HomerVision

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming already in progress…

by SCKSChief on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Another day, no real news.

I know James Hale isn’t the most accurate source, he’s saying BV is staying. Pat Jones said today he thinks he’s staying. I’ve felt that way pretty much the whole time. I just wish he’d hurry up and put this to bed one way or another so that we can get this recruiting wrapped up.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 16, 2012 10:05 PM CST reply actions  

As the Rumor Turns

Will he go, will he stay
I don’t know, he just wants paid

First they tweet and they they speak,
Who’s to say they aren’t double-speak

A lot of places this rumor has spread,
when o’ when will the CCM put this one to bed.

The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.

by scarab on Jan 17, 2012 8:20 AM CST reply actions  

Brilliant work scarab

Although beautiful grand lake o the Cherokees would make me philosophical…..

by OU JJ on Jan 17, 2012 8:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I had fun making that crap up

it’s really too cold to beautiful on Grand Lake. cloudy, NW cold ass winds temp this morning as 17degrees,
SUCKY WUCKY

The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.

by scarab on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe this is it. he just posted it

@DaveSittlerDave Sittler

For what it’s worth: source close to Venables’ agent believes he’s headed to Clemson. Just passing it on. Do with it what you will.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 PM CST reply actions  

I for one don't want to lose him

I know he’s not irreplaceable but he’s a terrific recruiter and LB coach. It’s also not like he hasn’t been a good DC, sure his D’s have had their problems, and haven’t been as dominant as we’d like but more times than not they’ve got the job done.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 7:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Gotta love this

I don’t know anything, so I’ll just what report what some people are saying without bothering to verify if it’s true or not.

In other news, while I can’t say for sure if they are indeed correct, some experts now believe that the earth is flat.

by ClarkusKentus on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

If this is what he wants & needs then I support it.

I won’t be happy to see him leave, but as a person & a career minded type I can appreciate it. 12 years is almost unheard of in one place. I think we all benefit from exposure to new things, ideas & people. Odds are the entire staff at Clemson is gone in 3 years, but if that’s a chance he needs to take then I get it.

by OU JJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:44 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

especially for a CFB coach at any level

we heard that he might be going up to join his old Jedi Master, Bill Snyder. The opening is there.

The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.

by scarab on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I think spite will win out..it usually does.

I can’t blame the guy, he wont get a HC spot being OU’s DC.

Hopefully its Clemson for a year and then off to a HC spot for a (maybe) prestigious school.

by SgtHatr3d on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 AM CST reply actions  

David Ubben over at ESPiN has an interesting article

where he suggests the logical place for BV is KSU. I think he’s on to something even thought it would obviously pit him against the Stoops for the first time in a lot of years. Snyder has once again resurrected KSU football to respectability and will likely be back in retirement within a couple of years. Having someone like BV who played for him at KSU and who knows the layout very well would make a lot of sense to bring on as a HCIW. Yeah it didn’t work for the whorns, but everyone knows Snyder isn’t gonna be around for long, so I think it makes a lot of sense. Read it here.

"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin

by leatherneck1061 on Jan 18, 2012 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

most likely scenario

it would be a good move for him if he is wanting to leave. He would be in line to b HC at K St.

The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.

by scarab on Jan 18, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

kstate

all the talk on KState boards is Venables heading to K-State and some give thumbs-up and some thumbs-down.

"Nonsense. By all means, move." Doc Holliday, the movie Tombstone.

by kcsoonerfan on Jan 18, 2012 4:24 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

Reading the tweets from that last update

Make this thing seem like it’s all but done with and that we are now gonna be looking for a new LB coach. I never would have thought he would have left for anything but a HC job, but I guess MS coming back and basicly taking over the DC job here was enough for him.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 5:06 PM CST reply actions  

See ya Brent....

Your D gave up nearly 1700 yards in the three losses this year..

Go put on your new orange clothes…

by PacificNW-Sooner on Jan 18, 2012 5:11 PM CST reply actions  

BWAHAHAHA!!!!

Is Sittler getting a cut from BV’s agent?

by ClarkusKentus on Jan 18, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

i think that was a joke

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

swear i'm not trying to scoop you, this just came down from sitler

DaveSittlerDave Sittler

Venables now confirming quote in previous text from source about “working through some details. Nothing final yet.”

So now it looks like he’s gone again!! twitter makes breaking news a fustercluck.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

no worries

I’m monitoring his Twitter account along w/ some others. Will probably have to do so all night at this rate.

by Jordan Esco on Jan 18, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

haha, probably

whats your gut say?

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

My gut says Sittler got 150 free tweets that he believes will expire at midnight

dachoppera Sean
by DaveSittler@
@DaveSittler at what point do you admit to yourself that you have no idea what’s goin on?

Priceless

Rumor has it that Texas is about to sign a huge corporate sponsorship deal for the Longhorn Network. They just have to decide which brand represents them best: Dyson, Eureka or Hoover.

by It'sTheVoice on Jan 18, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

haha, i just read that a minute ago

they are all just hoping something sticks at the moment

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

we’ve had venables’ defense for what 8 years. two full recruiting cycles and no national championships. we’ve had some monster offenses in those times and arguably the defenses at those times needed to be good. instead for the most part in big games how many times did the defense not do what it was supposed to. looking lost making bad plays. its time for us to move on and start fresh. venables is that long time girlfriend that you know isn’t the best but is so hard to push them away. but when you look back you’re always glad you ponied up and got out when you did

by profoundnotions on Jan 18, 2012 5:35 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

Worse. Than. Realignment.

Wishy washy fail. Quit or quit, but this is ridiculous to drag it out. I don’t care what your profession is.

by OU JJ on Jan 18, 2012 7:17 PM CST reply actions  

about 6 p.m.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

nothing new that I've seen

It’s 9:30 where I’m at and I haven’t seen anything new for a couple hours. I’m sure as soon as I say it something will come out, but I don’t think we’re hearing anything until tomorrow at the earliest.

by Jordan Esco on Jan 18, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm ready for it to be over one way or another

But I hope he stays

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

joe Schad

Said he’s going. Also, I saw. Tweet 45s ago that claimed Dabo told them directly BV is going to Clemson. Weird

by das06h on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

wouldn't suprise me at all

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Travis Haney

Said that the Clemson beat writer who said Dabo texted them directly is a former friend and colleague of his. Then you’ve got Dean Blevins saying BV told him he’s staying. Which is it!?!

by das06h on Jan 18, 2012 10:29 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

yeah it's looking that way

Dave Sitler has apperantly confirmed it with Venables himself. now we gotta go find another coach who can recruit like BV could. I’m sure jte will have more on this soon.

"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra

by pitbull17 on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm trying to imagine what it would be like to have a decision about your job and your family,

scrutinized and analyzed and rumored about by the minute, by the media, by twitter etc….must be pretty weird.

by soonermusic on Jan 18, 2012 11:50 PM CST reply actions  

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