OU Football - A very, very early look at 2012 (Linebackers)
In what you'll notice to be a common theme among the Sooners front seven for 2012, there isn't a lot of experience to inspire much confidence. Who knows, maybe all the players stepping from reserve roles into starting ones will raise their play and it won't be an issue. But given how many spots the OU front seven will have these types of players it seems fairly unrealistic there won't be some growing pains.
One thing there can be no questions about is the fact that it will be vital for Tom Wort to step into the leadership role on this defense vacated by Travis Lewis. There will be others to help him fill the void to be sure, guys like Demontre Hurst and and Aaron Colvin among others, but Wort has the kind of infectious on-field personality this defense could respond well to.
The Starters: Corey Nelson, Tom Wort, Joseph Ibiloye
The first and most obvious point to be made is by not including Tony Jefferson, we're clearly assuming he makes the switch back to that more traditional safety role. Obviously only time will tell whether or not that proves to be true, but for the purposes of this preview we're predicting that it will be.
Corey Nelson has the look of a very talented player, but is in the unenviable position of having to replace a four year starter at the WLB in Travis Lewis. That said, he seems like a perfect fit for the role considering his speed and athleticism. He can make plays all over the field, which is exactly what this defensive scheme asks the weakside backer to do. I mean it's no coincidence that Lewis was the leading tackler on this team for four straight years. What Nelson will have to do however is be disciplined so that opposing offenses cannot exploit his aggressiveness.
We talked about Wort and is expected of him heading into 2012, but it bears mentioning that Wort's game seems much more suited to that WLB position. If OU were to move him, which they never will, out of the MLB spot it would allow for a lineup I feel would be much more suited to what the coaches want to do on defense. Imagine Wort at WLB, the bigger Jaydan Bird (or even Kellen Jones who the coaches seem to really like) at MLB, and Nelson at that SLB/Roy-back spot. Am I crazy or doesn't that make a lot more sense than the smashing a square peg into a round hole that these defensive coaches seem to do year after year after year?
Let me be clear that Ibiloye as a starter is not my personal preference. It's not meant as a slight to Ibby, in fact I think he could play a valuable role for this defense against run heavy offenses. The problem is when he is in the game, Venables routinely asks him to drop into pass coverage and he's just not quick enough to stay with the smaller, faster players they continually ask him to cover. I think Ibby being a senior gives him an advantage with the coaches that, at least for the first part of the season, earns him the starting role.
The Reserves:
Rashod Favors, Frank Shannon, Aaron Franklin, Daniel Franklin, P.L. Lindley, Jaydan Bird, Kellen Jones
At 6'1" 240, Favors is another guy who seems much more suited to that MLB role. On more than one occasion, I've read positive things about him and how he's performed in practice. But 2012 will be the start of his third year on campus and he'll yet to have seen anything even close to significant playing time.
Shannon is a guy the coaches and players were raving about during the bowl practices. If he can continue that kind of progress, then he could be a guy that shares time with Ibiloye at that Roy-back spot.
Aaron Franklin is another guy who the coaches have been complimentary of and after working his way back from a serious knee injury coming out of h.s., he's reportedly regained the same explosiveness he had prior to the injury. He has the same kind of speed, maybe even more so, that Nelson has which at the LB spot is a big asset.
Daniel Franklin will be a senior in 2012 and while he's played a role on special teams, he's yet to really see any significant playing time and don't expect that to change next year. If Venables would play an actual 4-3, Franklin would make a perfect strong side linebacker but with a 13 year track record of the same defensive scheme we know that's never happening.
Lindley redshirted in 2011 and is yet another candidate for Venables beloved hybrid LB/S role.
Bird will be a senior and will likely continue to see time on special teams and is likely to share the primary backup to Wort at MLB with Kellen Jones. Bird actually got some snaps on offense at fullback in the final two games of the season. Jones transferred really late from Michigan and was expected to redshirt, but wound up playing in almost every game primarily on kickoff coverage put also in some limited snaps on defense.
Aside from the senior experience at the DT position, it's odd how similar this preview reads to the defensive line preview from yesterday. No shortage of talent, but not a ton of experience in the guys stepping into starting roles and virtually none in terms of the depth behind the starters. Just like with the defensive line, what's abundantly clear in putting together this preview is that this is another unit that very much needs to remain healthy.
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Not an Ibiloye fan
I wouldn’t hate seeing Bird in the middle with Wort at WLB.
What I’d like most is to see a tweaked defensive scheme…but I know it’s a pipe dream.
Yea I’m not a fan of Wort at MLB. Is rather see a Jaydan Bird or bigger guy at MLB and the smaller guys on the outside.
Love the crimson and cream
by ohiosoonerbaby on Jan 10, 2012 9:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I think Venables love of undersized LBs causes problems all over for this defense
The DTs have proven incapable of occupying blockers, so the o-linemen get to the second level. Where they meet our undersized LBs and dominate them b/c our guys cannot get off blocks. Which then forces us to play our safeties closer to the LOS to help up make for the deficiency. Which then makes us more apt to getting beat over the top.
How can Venables possibly not realize this?!?!?!?
Very true
Small LBs only work when you have good DTs…or an amazingly fast defense that can shoot gaps and disrupt in the backfield. Regardless…we have neither.
Good point
But you know the emphasis on speed over size is a direct result of the spread offenses of the Big 12. Not saying they have made the right choice, but I think there is a legitimate pick-your-poison argument that can be made here. Either you theoretically put your defense at a disadvantage against the spread by emphasizing larger LB’s or you have more speed and then suffer when you play against stout downhill running games like the SEC.
Stoops clearly believes this is the correct emphasis because of the league we play in.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Jan 10, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
There is some common ground
You can have your speed on the backend of the defense, but you MUST have three very large, very angry, very talented down linemen…especially the tank NT. Those guys give you a chance against the run, but then guys like Nelson and Ibiloye become nearly full-time pass rushers off the edge (at least one at all times). Oh, and the DE’s have to be more like the Gerald McCoys or Ndomakung Suhs of the world and be stout against the run and with the ability to get after the passer a little bit.
This is a tough scheme to pull off and I suffered through watching the Kansas City defense finally start to come around at the end of the season. It can be done, but it is a slow, painful process and there aren’t many Vince Wilfork’s running around in HS to be a hoss in the middle for a 3 front defense.
LSU players are pretty damn big
And they didn’t seem to have much trouble against spread teams like Oregon and WVU this year.
This “we do it b/c of the Big 12” is the standard OU company line and it’s b.s. IMO. We should be forcing the league to adapt to what we want to do, not vice versa.
I actually agree with you
for the simple reason that SEC defenses still find effective ways to deal with the spread the few times in a year that they actually play against it.
But as you say, it has become the standard “company line”. As we know, Stoops is not the quickest at changing his schemes when he is already sold on something.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Jan 10, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Although to be technically accurate
Both Oregon and WVU outproduced LSU in total offense. LSU was just better at forcing turnovers.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
And that undersized lb gets nicked up & beat up from all the thrashing from no DT
by OU JJ on Jan 10, 2012 9:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
which was part of Worts problem this year, kept taking hits from big O lineman
Just getting in a 4 man front did wonders for the LB’s this year, but they did their best to stay out of it and run that stupid 3. IF somebody would slaps venables and tell him no, the LB’s may actually be alright next year.
"I feel sorry for peple who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning thats as good as they are gonna feel all day long." Frank Sinatra
We need to go to a 3-4
We don’t have the talent at DT IMO to go with 2 guys. Our LBs could be Nelson, Wort, Favors, and Bird or Jones.
we if we don't have the talent to go with 2 DTs
(Which I don’t agree with FWIW) We sure as hell don’t have anyone on campus that can play the NG in a 3-4.
Agreed about NT
But the defense as a whole would get better. They’d be more athletic and able to cover the run as well as athletic QBs.
by soonercowboy14 on Jan 10, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Crossing my fingers!
I believe there is a chance either Phillips or Wade has a chance to become a one of those stud DTs, clearly they are both huge, let’s just hope they can be mean and play football.

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