Roy Finch's Heisman chances greater than Brandon Weeden's?
by Jordan Esco on Jun 14, 2011 2:43 PM CDT
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PrintNow I'd like to consider myself a pretty big OU fan and I'm not sure even the homer in me can get on board with that statement. However, that is exactly what the popular online gambling site Bodog released today when they officially posted their odds for the 2011 Heisman. You'll be absolutely shocked to learn that Stanford QB Andrew Luck is the odds on favorite at 9/2, but hot on his tail is our own Landry Jones as the number two preseason favorite at 13/2.
OU's Ryan Broyles and OSU's Justin Blackmon both check in at 15/1, grouped together with QB Kellen Moore (Boise St.) and RB Knile Davis (Arkansas).
Then we get to the news maker, at least what qualifies for "news" this time of year, with RB Roy Finch on the board at 30/1 ahead of Brandon "Father Time" Weeden who checks in at 32/1. Again I am, much like I assume most of you are as well, a huge fan of Finch and think he could be a very good to great player for OU but there is no way his odds of winning the Heisman should be higher than Weeden's. Ignoring the obvious fact that teammates will almost always steal votes from each other and he has two others on this list while Weeden only has one, he would easily be #3 on the list of Sooners while you could easily argue putting Weeden even or ahead of Blackmon.
Check out the rest of the favorites after the jump.
Now obviously this means less than nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it was interesting to see this come out today and just how much respect Vegas apparently has for OU and Finch. I think they're wrong, at least with respect to his odds on winning, but hopefully it will just be an indication of how great a year he's about to have!
Here is the full list of the favorites and their respective odds of winning.
Andrew Luck, Stanford quarterback: 9/2
Landry Jones, Oklahoma quarterback: 13/2
Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina running back: 7/1
Denard Robinson, Michigan quarterback: 15/2
LaMichael James, Oregon running back: 15/2
Trent Richardson, Alabama running back: 12/1
Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State receiver: 15/1
Kellen Moore, Boise State quarterback: 15/1
Knile Davis, Arkansas running back: 15/1
Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma receiver: 15/1
Robert Griffin III, Baylor quarterback: 20/1
Chris Polk, Washington running back: 25/1
Roy Finch, Oklahoma running back: 30/1
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State quarterback: 32/1
Case Keenum, Houston quarterback: 35/1
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I agree.
Brandon Weeden should’ve been given better odds than Roy Finch, especially since Finch didn’t play a lot last season.
I also think that Weeden should be higher on the list than Justin Blackmon. Sure, Blackmon is a beast, but receivers rarely win the Heisman.
I think Blackmon being on the team detracks from Weeden’s chances to win the Heisman…
Ryan Broyles has a knack for getting open, but Justin Blackmon has a knack for catching the ball. There are only so many times you can watch Blackmon jump over a guy and rip the ball out of the air before it makes you question how much of Weedin’s success is attributed to Blackmon.
I’m not sure the same thing will hurt Landry, though, because teams have taken Broyles away in the past, and Landry just goes elsewhere with the football.
I would pick Lattimore. He will be very good, but as ever being a Heisman winner.
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by otisnixon'sparty on Jun 14, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
If I had to pick someone too high on the list, I’d choose Denard Robinson. New coaching staff and a new offense that doesn’t fit his style doesn’t seem like it’ll be too good for him.
If I had to pick someone too low on the list, I’d go with Case Keenum, who’s going to have huge numbers in that Houston offense and a great “feel-good” Jason White story to go along with it.
And, where the hell are Matt Barkley, Taylor Martinez, and EJ Manuel on this list?
Keenum is hurt because he doesn't play against top dogs every weekend
Not sure I would place T-Magic on the list after the way he finished the season and EJ Manuel is going to surprise some people. Being an avid hater of USC I can say that I am happy Barkley doesn’t see his name on this list.
Well, they have to justify their position somehow
Finch may well emerge as THE guy in the backfield for OU but I’m not sure that he’s there yet. He appears to have a little competition for PT and may not get the carries needed for a legit Heisman run.
That and the fact that having Broyles and Jones on the same team is going to take potential votes away from him.
I think Landry Jones is in the cat-bird seat this year. If he plays the way I know he can and that O-line does their job, he’s gonna win it!
mjc
I'm not convinced that Finch will be THE guy
While Finch is an incredible talent with absurd balance, he is still coming off a reinjury late in the season. Plus at 5-8 165lb-ish, he doesn’t have the stature to be that feature back. I would expect Brennan Clay or Jonathan Miller to emerge as THE back before Finch does. Miller is the most ready physically to handle more carries and if Clay can put on some weight, he will be there too.
I know everyone has crowned Finch the next OU Heisman winner but how much of a reality is that?
i don't put a lot of weight in the arguments
about guys not winning because of who’s on their team. just look at the teams most of the recent winners have played on. these are all guys playing in the national championship game, or close to it, with superstars all around them. Leinart and Bush* won in back to back years. Tebow, Bradford, Ingram, Newton… these guys all threw to, handed to, or were flanked by first round NFL talent.
be on an elite team, create highlights, and get ESPN on your jock… that’s how you win a heisman. it doesn’t matter if it’s fair and it doesn’t matter if you had help. in fact, it’s probably required.
by evenyoudorn on Jun 15, 2011 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It's why AD didn't win
White stole just enough votes, along w/ the old timer morons who wouldn’t let a freshman win, to keep him from getting the trophy he deserved.
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i agree with half of that
i think it was mainly the age thing, for AD and maybe fitzgerald. but there are too many guys all over the list who played with superstars and still won the award. again, you had leinart and bush win in back-to-back years, both of which played not only with the other but with williams and smith and white and whoever else was on those insane offenses.
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