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The Lon Kruger Dossier

"Boomer Sooner? You got it guys!". Lon Kruger looks to be headed to Norman to coach the Oklahoma Sooners men's basketball team.  (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

Although we've been informed about three or four times this week that OU had their man, it looks like this time it's the real deal. Lon Kruger actually popped up on the radar before, but the reports were that he had rebuffed our offers. This time, it looks like Joe Castiglione managed to strike a deal, as Andy Katz of ESPN reports:

Oklahoma will name UNLV's Lon Kruger as its men's basketball coach, a source with direct knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com. Kruger and athletic director Joe Castiglione were negotiating through Friday with a deal to be announced. Oklahoma is waiting to make it official so as to respect UNLV and allow the Runnin' Rebels' players to be told of Kruger's departure.

So who exactly is Lon Kruger? He's a 58 year old basketball coach who born in Silver Lake, Kansas in the northeast part of the state. He has strong ties to Kansas State, as he played and coached there. As a player, he led the Wildcats to back-to-back Big 8 titles in 1972 and 1973, and was the conference player of the year in 1973 and 1974. Since then, he's had about 35 years of coaching experience - 6 as an assistant and 29 as a head coach.

Read the rest of the story for many more details!

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His Record

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About the only thing Kruger doesn't have on his resume is a national title. As you can see from the chart on the right, Kruger is an above average coach in many respects.

He has compiled a 479-304 career record, for a 0.612 winning percentage. At all five of his previous gigs, Kruger improved the record of his inherited squad within 2 to 4 years. This includes taking a woeful Florida Gators squad that only had 7 wins and turning them into a Final Four team four years later. 

Kruger is 14-12 in NCAA Tournament games. That actually works out to a better winning percentage than the likes of Rick Barnes and Buzz Williams, and is on par with Matt Painter. He's been to a Final Four, an Elite Eight, and a Sweet 16. Of the 13 teams that Lon Kruger has coached into the tournament, 8 of them have advanced at least one game. After he left Texas Pan-American for the Kansas State job in 1986, his teams have made a postseason tournament 17 of 21 possible occasions. Considering that making the NIT or NCAA Tournament generally means that you are a part of the national conversation, Kruger's teams are relevant on the national stage at about an 81% clip, which is pretty remarkable.

 

What His Peers Think

Roy Williams, current coach of North Carolina:

Lon Kruger helps to set the bar for integrity in our profession. His history of success in college basketball is even more impressive when you realize he has repeatedly revitalized programs all while operating strictly within the rules. Lon is a coach’s coach. We all have something to learn from him.

Mike Krzyzewski, current coach of Duke:

Without a doubt, Lon is one of the best tacticians in the game. I love Lon. He does everything above board. He has a program fans can be proud of.

Larry Brown, member of the Basketball Hall of Fame, and in the 1000 win club as a head coach:

Very few coaches have been able to change cultures as quickly and successfully as Lon Kruger. He understands how to mold a group of individuals into one team with a common goal and has proven that time and time again. Lon has high standards for all those around him and he possesses a passion for winning, but not at any cost. That is arguably his strongest trait.

Fran Fraschilla, ESPN broadcaster:

Year in and year out, Lon Kruger is as good a coach as there is in the country. His teams are always well-prepared and never take a night off.

 

A Few Blips Of Info On His Coaching Style

It's hard to find a lot of information on the X's and O's of Kruger, but here's a few small blips of info that I pulled together from various websites, news stories, and message boards:

  • Rick Pitino says Kruger's UNLV teams "defend like a Big East team" 
  • His teams give a lot of effort on the defensive end 
  • UNLV plays more end-to-end and full court, different than his old gig at Illinois. Kruger says you need to adapt the style to the team you have 
  • Up tempo, with more of a trapping, in-your-face style in the past several years. 
  • Players love him 
  • Believer in the 80-20 rule: 80% positive reinforcement and 20% constructive criticism 
  • Cool customer, doesn't like to dress guys down in public or embarrass them
  • An article compared Bill Self and Kruger, and said Self is more openly critical in practice while Kruger is more non-confrontational. Kruger said to be always in "teaching mode" and putting emphasis on effort 
  • Not a lot of drama, no skeletons in the closet 
  • Called a "shrewd X's and O's guy" 
  • Low key, not a yeller or screamer
  • "Calculated precision and calm under pressure"
  • 4 of his last 5 teams were ranked in the top 50 on KenPom.com in efficiency, yielding an average of just 0.925 points per possession.
  • His teams take care of the ball. 4 of his last 5 teams were in the top 30 in turnover percentage.

 

He Vastly Improved The Attendance At UNLV

Here is a quote of that from the UNLV website:

A major part of succeeding at home is the environment in the arena and this is important to Kruger and his staff as they continue building the program. UNLV averaged 14,228 fans per home game last season and sold out the famed Thomas & Mack Center in February 2009 vs. BYU (18,523 fans) for the program's first home sellout since 1993.The BYU game in 2010 sold out again, then UNLV drew over 18,000 fans in its next home game against New Mexico, which marked consecutive home crowds of 18,000-plus for the first time since 1991.

The success of the program has also expanded off the court under Kruger's direction, who starting with the 2008-09 season took an active role in overseeing the program's marketing and community outreach efforts. UNLV's 2009-10 attendance numbers at the Thomas & Mack Center were the largest since Jerry Tarkanian's final season (1991-92) and the Runnin' Rebels climbed to No. 18 overall in attendance and No. 1 on the West Coast.

 

Other Points and Notes

  • Find me a coach with a better record of turning programs around. Every single time Kruger has gone to a program in dire straights, they've improved their record substantially within four years.
  • He has experience working with young teams. In his third season at Illinois, he had a team that had no returning starters and was the Big Ten's youngest squad. According to the Sagarin Ratings records, they played the second toughest schedule in the country, won five games against ranked teams, and nearly made the tournament by reaching the Big 10 Championship Game and losing to No. 2 Michigan State.
  • His 1997-1998 Illinois team won the school's first Big 10 title since 1984. The resurrection of the program after a long drought is similar to how he breathed some life into UNLV's program - one that constantly looked back to the Jerry Tarkanian days of the early 90s.
  • Kruger was an assistant coach under Rudy Tomjanovich for the US national team in the 1998 FIBA World Championship
  • Before Kruger showed up at UNLV, they were averaging crowds only 62% of capacity (Mike DeCourcy).
  • He is very involved in charitable work and definitely made an impact on the Las Vegas community.
  • His website.
  • Random: he's a good golfer with a five handicap.

 

My Personal Thoughts

The Oklahoma men's basketball program was in shambles. We knew it, the school administration knew it, Jeff Capel knew it, and everyone who follows college basketball knew it. This is why we had a long, drawn-out, and difficult coaching search. I can picture guys around the country talking to each other saying, "the OU job is a project". Could anyone possibly argue with that?

Usually when you have a project of a job to offer, you are forced to settle on a candidate from a lower division of the sport, or from a smaller program. Luckily, what OU has going for it is a rather large recruiting budget, excellent facilities, and one of the better athletic departments in the nation. I think it was those saving graces that enabled us to sign a coach of the caliber of Lon Kruger.

What did our program need? When we're looking for a coach, we really needed a guy who has a proven track record with "project teams" - a guy who can roll up his sleeves, tackle a huge problem, and has a history of success in those situations. We also needed someone who can clean up the program, a guy who can run a tight ship, but also with a laid-back attitude to avoid turning off recruits. Finally, we needed an experienced coach. We needed someone who could show up on the recruiting trail and say, "I'm bringing more than just shiny buildings and equipment. I've won before, I've won a lot, and I can win against some of the best in the sport".

Lon Kruger measures up to all those needs.

Every single program that Kruger has inherited has been a "project team". Every. Single. One. And each time he has turned the tide. Bill Self gets a lot of credit for Illinois' resurgence in the early 2000s, but it was really Kruger that laid the groundwork in the late 90s and turned the Illini into a winner. At UNLV, he got personally involved in the marketing and groundwork to help put people in the seats, and guess what? UNLV started recording some of the best attendance figures in nearly two decades! 

He's known for taking care of unsavory business behind closed doors. He doesn't want to embarrass his players out in public, but he'll make sure they follow the rules. He doesn't have a history of scandals or NCAA violations. And yet, Kruger wins. He wins a lot. To be depressed about getting a guy who has 479 career wins and a 0.612 career winning percentage is like being depressed about getting your favorite dessert when you thought you were getting broccoli. And Kruger wins consistently by squeezing the most out of the players he gets, rather than setting his eyes on the biggest fish in the recruiting ocean. If you have any nasty thoughts about this hire, go read what some of the winningest basketball coaches in history have to say about Kruger (quoted above)!

Again, as I said in several comment threads, I challenge anyone to find me a coach who was even semi-available that has the distinguished resume that Kruger does.

My prevailing opinion is that this is a great hire for Oklahoma. They're getting a great coach and a great man. I see no reason why this move will fall flat on its face. Do you honestly think that a guy with this history of success will crumble with a huge recruiting budget? Could it get any worse than the last two years? The answers to both of those questions is unlikely. If you are pining for the glory of 2009-2011 OU basketball, I am completely at a loss for words.

The one thing that concerns me a bit is the reported $2.2 million per year salary figure. If that is true, it would make Lon Kruger among the highest paid college basketball coaches in the country and pull him even with Mike Krzyzewski and Rick Barnes, and just behind Rick Pitino. This is likely to inflate expectations among OU fans. I simply ask that you give the guy more than one year. If the upcoming season doesn't improve much on last season record-wise, please consider how deep in trouble our basketball program was. 

Kruger is not going to be able to walk in, wave a magic wand, and make everything better. It would be nice, but it will probably take at least three years to engineer a turnaround to something that we could call "success". In that case, bear in mind that we are paying this guy premium money to get OU back to a level of respectability and success that it once enjoyed as quickly as possible, NOT instantaneously. 

Of course, people will say that this is the "safe hire", but I think that this is equally risky as a young-up-and-comer. Why? Because of the salary figure. People will, unfortunately, hold Kruger to an unfairly high standard so he needs to start producing results pretty fast or else Lon and Joe Castiglione might start getting a little heat. While a younger coach at a mid-major might be more of an unknown (hence the risk factor), he would be considerably cheaper.

That being said, I think that OU is paying top dollar for one of the most underrated coaches in college basketball. Let's face it. There's only so far that you can take UNLV, and Lon took them most of the way there. While Kruger hasn't necessarily won it all, he's what you would call a "consistent winner". His teams are always in the mix. After all the trouble with the NCAA after Sampson and Capel, and after the last couple years, doesn't "consistent winner" sound great?

I think that most of the criticism of Kruger lies in the fact that he's an unknown, and that people always fear what they don't know. Why was Pastner a popular name? Because he's the coach of Memphis, and everyone associates Memphis with a great basketball program. But what has Pastner done? Basically nothing. Lon Kruger's announcement won't have the pizazz that a Brad Stevens or Shaka Smart hire would have, but what Kruger lacks in pizazz, he makes up for in substance.

His teams win. Period.

Just give him a chance to prove it, rather than condemning the hire before the guy even walks into the press room.

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Great write up. Boomer!

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by isaidso on Apr 1, 2011 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Very good points

When you look at it like this it doesn’t sound so bad, I think this could work out. I just don’t think everyone knew a whole lot about this guy, including me. I hope everyone gets behind him. Boomer Sooner Forever!

Lets go back to Omaha!!!

by SoonerBornSoonerBred on Apr 1, 2011 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

One quick note

the pulling even on salary talk was using the Forbes list of base salary not total compensation by the university. In those cases, Kruger would probably rank well behind Coach K and Barnes.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

jtesooner

should feel silly for all his bitching

by texas-sooner on Apr 1, 2011 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

so we're not allowed opinions here now?

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by Jordan Esco on Apr 1, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

texas-sooner sounds oxymoronic

emphasis on moronic

Team FIRST, Effort SECOND, Talent THIRD, Selfish NEVER

by omsooner on Apr 2, 2011 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice work Dimes

I feel even better about it now than I did before.

One correction and it is a nit-pick but Pastner took Memphis to the tournament this season. They lost in the first round to Arizona.

by Sooner71 on Apr 1, 2011 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Ah yeah

forgot. 12 seed. Thanks

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

NEW INFO:

Looks like we might get Terry Evans after all, as an assistant. He also has an offer to be the head coach at Lamar. Seems like a real class act though, listen to this:

Central Oklahoma coach Terry Evans, who interviewed for the OU job Tuesday, said he ran into Kruger on Friday morning in a Houston hotel, during the basketball coaches convention.

"I told him, ‘Coach Kruger, you need to take this job,’" Evans said. "He started smiling. He acted like he had already taken it."

Kruger didn’t officially take the job until Friday afternoon, but Evans said he and Kruger chatted about OU’s current roster and the recruiting landscape the next few years.

But Evans said he told Kruger to take the job and hire Evans onto his staff, a move which sources said OU officials would endorse.

"I would absolutely love it," Evans said.

Evans played for Kruger during the 1990 U.S. Olympic Festival and said he mentioned that fact to OU athletic director Joe Castiglione.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Along those lines a Guerin Emig tweet:
Terry Evans on Kruger via text: “a great hire.. I played for Coach Kruger in the 1990 Olympic Fest. Have a great relationship. He will win”

Evans seems to have a lot of respect for Kruger.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

if they bring in Evans

then I will be happy. I want a young guy..and an OU guy out on the recruiting trail.

now…if I was Evans…not sure I’d do that. a Head Coaching job at Lamar, seems better than the bench of OU, where I’m guessing wins are going to be pretty rare for the next couple of years.

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by Redhawk on Apr 1, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even better

Where did this information come from? This would give Evans the experience necessary to take over down the road when LK decides to hang em up.

We’ll see if it happens.

by Sooner71 on Apr 1, 2011 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Just went on NewsOK.com

If I were him I might take the head coaching gig, but he’s got the personal connection to both OU and Kruger. I had no idea Evans played for Kruger. Might be an ideal pairing.

We shall see. Evans has options though.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the contract is correct

Then, to me, this is less about a Joe C desperation and more Lon setting this last contract (and stop) the way he wants it. The size of the contract also precludes his firing if the turnaround goes slowly. Smart move on his part, and I cannot blame him. Kelvin tarnished the program as he left and Jeff (and underlings) did us no favors either. Lon has the track record to be able to turn any college program around, and is a character guy.

I am tired of Big Mac all Americans who disgrace the program. I would rather have Lon recruiting quality and character. There is plenty of regional talent. Give me 4 year Najera’s over most of these recent one and done recruits.

I hope the presser comes soon. I find this to be a great hire.

by PA Sooner 95 on Apr 1, 2011 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Give me 4 year Najera’s over most of these recent one and done recruits.

YES!! Exactly! Thank you. Look at how well senior-laden teams are doing in the tournament. VCU and Butler are both veteran squads.

Kentucky is an exception because they’re getting Top-10 talent there. OU will never be there in basketball recruiting. We need guys who are committed and will work hard.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That kind of talent is just too rare.

Even Duke and NC lose the year after they get short timers who go to the draft. I think of Price and Minor and Erdmann: we remember good to great teams, but forget they weren’t stocked with Griffins…..

by PA Sooner 95 on Apr 1, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm definitely on board with this

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by Jordan Esco on Apr 1, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, I'm starting to think the price tag will be okay for us either way

It proves that we are willing to invest top dollar in our basketball program instead of being penny pinchers.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another coach reaction, this time from Steve Fisher, San Diego St. coach (Elite 8 this year):
Lon is the man I would want my son to play for. He is the person you want to live next door to. He is a superb basketball coach. He brought back respectability to the UNLV program. He did a great, great job. My guess is all he did there won’t be fully appreciated until he is gone.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Good read from Emig

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/blogs/blog.aspx?blogid=12#11069

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Look, I'll play my role here

If need be, I know the reputation I have here as evidenced by the comment above and that’s fine. I’ll never apologize for having an opinion, even if it isn’t a popular one. So choose to believe it or not, but nobody and I mean nobody wants me to be wrong more than me. I’m just not excited by this hire.

I thoroughly enjoyed the write up dimes, as usual, but IMO this was a “settle” hire if not a panic one. To double this guy’s salary is borderline ridiculous and I certainly agree with his salary drastically increasing expectations. That’s how the world works and there is no reason he should be held to a different standard with his upcoming paycheck.

I don’t think any realistic fan is expecting him to take next year’s team to the tournament, but if you’re telling me we shouldn’t expect to be a tournament team for the next four years then help me understand how I’m supposed to be excited by that? I definitely don’t agree with this being a risk hire as you say, just because they grossly overpaid the guy doesn’t add risk to the equation. This was one of the safest hires Joe C. could have possibly made.

Again, I cannot stress this enough I WANT TO BE WRONG. I have never and will never root against any OU coach/player. I will support Kruger and the basketball program no matter what. Just because I’m not excited about it today doesn’t mean I can’t get behind it later on. No one will be happier than me if Kruger turns out to be they guy you all think he can be.

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by Jordan Esco on Apr 1, 2011 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ll never apologize for having an opinion, even if it isn’t a popular one.

Definitely shouldn’t have to do that. We all hold unpopular opinions from time to time :)

I thoroughly enjoyed the write up dimes

Gracias.

To double this guy’s salary is borderline ridiculous

While I do agree, let me qualify that. I think that we basically paid about a $300-$400K “penalty” per year for the awful state of our program, and probably needed about $100K extra anyways to sweeten the pot for a guy who actually really loved his setup. By all accounts he was ready to coach until retirement at UNLV.

We saw several guys leverage OU (and other) offers into better salaries more into this range of $1.8-$2.2MIL, and I unfortunately think we got the high end of the range because it’s going to take a lot of hard work to make us competitive again. It’s just the way it is now, but I suspect you’re going to have to top $1.5MIL in the next couple years in order to get one of the best 20-25 coaches in the game.

if you’re telling me we shouldn’t expect to be a tournament team for the next four years then help me understand how I’m supposed to be excited by that?

I’m saying don’t expect the tourney 1 or 2 years down the line, but it’s a POSSIBLE scenario. A lot depends on whether or not he can peel away any recruits in the next couple months, and how well he recruits next year. Pledger, Fitzgerald, and Clark should be a decent veteran core this upcoming year and maybe the year after. It’s not a phenomenal core, but if Kruger can add some hard-working role players around those guys, don’t be surprised by an NIT bid even this year. The guy can coach.

Given the amount of money Joe just threw at Lon, I’m willing to bet he’s going to open up the reserves and give Lon a ton of financial flexibility with recruiting the next couple years. I’m also going to bet that by mid April we’ll have a new assistant who has cred as a good recruiter in the Midwest.

That’s how the world works and there is no reason he should be held to a different standard with his upcoming paycheck.

Absolutely right. If he produces like he has during his entire life, then it looks like he’ll be earning every dime.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

RE: the contract

basically I think under normal circumstances we probably would have had him for about $1.7-1.8MIL per

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 1, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is my biggest issue
The huge question mark with Kruger is this: Can he recruit?

“No,” said sources here for the Final Four who are familiar with Kruger’s work at UNLV. “His biggest problem at Vegas was his inability to recruit good big men. Illinois exposed that in the tournament.”

Still, the greatest tactical coaches in the game can only go so far without players. That means it’s critical that Kruger put together a dynamite staff that can recruit the big-time talent needed to compete in the Big 12 Conference.

That might require Kruger to shake up the staff he had at UNLV. The Rebels’ lack of recruiting success forced Kruger to build his team on transfers from other Division I programs.

At his age, it’s highly unlikely this guy is going to suddenly change his ways. In fact I think one of the reasons Joe C (and apparently everyone else here who thinks it was a great hire) targeted the guy was this fact. You know what you get with Kruger and they wanted the safe choice.

So you take the quote above and the comments that I’ve read elsewhere stating that he builds teams that rely on the three point shot and now we have an overpaid, older version of what we just fired. Aside from the NCAA stuff, which I’ll readily admit is a big deal, in what way did we upgrade?

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by Jordan Esco on Apr 2, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

oops

Sorry, this is from a Dave Sittler TW article.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20110402_202_B1_HUTNOl39197

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by Jordan Esco on Apr 2, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

My problem with that article

is that he’s basing the entire premise of “average recruiter” on Kruger’s time at UNLV, a school that doesn’t have an elite program, elite facilities, etc.

You have to consider how good a person is at recruiting relative to all the tools they have at their disposal. If Kruger recruited the same players he did at Duke, then he would be a failure. If he recruited those players at Kennesaw State, he’d be a recruiting genius.

Back to your argument…

I do agree that Kruger is probably not the world’s best recruiter. He’s probably an average recruiter, and a great tactician. However, I think that can be remedied by surrounding himself with a couple of assistants who are not only known for recruiting, but they know the regional HS landscape.

I’d rather have a coach that can coach, rather than a recruiter. Pure talent can take you halfway, but you need a developer of talent in order to push it over the finish line.

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 2, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough

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by Jordan Esco on Apr 2, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aside from the NCAA stuff, which I’ll readily admit is a big deal, in what way did we upgrade?

You don’t think Lon Kruger is an upgrade over Capel??

"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews

by dishingoutdimes on Apr 2, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh, and rec'd

"I don't like Texas. I don't like the city of Austin. And I don't like the color orange. It reminds me of puke." The Boz

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by Jordan Esco on Apr 1, 2011 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Excellent write up dimes

Now don’t be running off when eSPIN, FauxSports, et. al come calling. Hang with us!

by It'sTheVoice on Apr 2, 2011 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

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