Big XII NFL Draft Prospects
by Jordan Esco on Dec 5, 2011 8:00 AM CST
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PrintFew days are more depressing than the Monday after OU's college football regular season comes to an end. So in what is sure to be a exercise in futility, I thought you might be able to distract yourself with some NFL draft talk if only for a few minutes.
Now I'd expect you're just as skeptical about anything football "analysis" related from ESPiN's own Mel Kiper and Todd McShay, so I might as well just go ahead and get that disclaimer out of the way up front. So just keep that in mind as we move forward. Kiper has his "Big Board" and McShay has his Top 25 players, we're using the most recent editions for what you'll read below. Just to be clear, neither of these are mock drafts. Rather just each guy's Top 25-32 NFL draft prospects as of this week.
Landry Jones - Kiper #6, McShay #7
The OU quarterback is the highest rated Big XII player on McShay's board and the second highest on Kiper's. Kiper has him as the #2 QB (behind Andrew Luck), while McShay has him as the #3 QB (behind Luck and Matt Barkley).
Justin Blackmon - Kiper #4, McShay #9
The OSU star is the highest rated WR on each guy's board.
Ronnell Lewis - Kiper #18, McShay N/A
The OU linebacker checks in as a Top 20 player for Kiper, while McShay doesn't have The Hammer inside his Top 32.
Robert Griffin III - Kiper #21, McShay #21
Both guys agree on the Baylor superstar, checking in as the #21 overall player for each draft "expert." Both guys also agree that RGIII is the #4 QB behind Luck, Jones, and Barkley in some order.
Ryan Tannehill - Kiper N/A, McShay #25
McShay has been in love with Tannehill all season for some unexplainable reason, which only reaffirms my opinion that he'll suck in the NFL. The guy looked like a WR playing QB all year and this just in, the competition doesn't get any easier playing on Sundays.
Kendall Wright - Kiper N/A, McShay #32
Two Baylor Bears as projected 1st round picks should tell you a lot about how far Art Briles has brought that program. Wright is a guy who could have a nice career playing in the NFL with his size and speed.
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I think whether or not Barkley goes early
will have a huge impact on what Landry Jones decides to do. If Barkley and even RGIII decide to stay in school then Landry becomes the clear #2 in the draft.
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I think RG3 is the best prospect if he reaches his ceiling
He has the potential of playing every game like Vick against the Skins on MNF. Landry is a bust no matter where he goes. Forgets his mechanics, can’t handle pressure, and stares guys down. I just pray that he goes so Blake can take over
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 5, 2011 9:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Landry has played himself
into the 2nd or 3rd round. Who knows…there are idiots out there that jumped Sanchez way up above where he should have been too.
if Landry is a top 10 pick..or even a first round pick
he needs to go and take the money…..and please god don’t get drafted by the Denver Donkeys.
If the Redskins take him
that will be the last straw for me. Harry Carey for sure.
by SoonerGoneEast on Dec 5, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
I thought the same thing when Denver took Tebow
They used to be my favorite NFL team, but I couldn’t stand to watch them qb’d by the guy that my Sooners lost to in 2008. Oh well….forgive and move on….I guess.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
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by leatherneck1061 on Dec 5, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
and all the kid does is WIN
Tbo has done much better than many people thought. The dude IS A FOOTBALL PLAYER. His attitude is so infectious that his offensive team mates would try to walk on fire for him. His defensive team mates believe in him and try to give him good field position and hang on long enough for his last drive.
I heard Denver was going to let him go at the end of the season. It would Mr. Elway’s biggest mistake to do so. I don’t think Tbo really cares if he is a full time starter or not, he just want to play football.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
The fact that he is making so many sports media prognosticators
look like chumps is pretty hillarious. They all swore he would fail, and to some degree he is making them all look like fools. Priceless.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Dec 5, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
There has been success
but it is not all Tebow. He still sucks at throwing the ball. Eventually, the NFL defenses will adapt to Denver’s new offense and he’ll be forced to be a real QB. When that time comes, his success will cease. Just remember, he hasn’t really beaten a good team yet.
Who would want Landry?
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 5, 2011 11:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions
On their team
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 5, 2011 11:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Vikes. Raiders. Fins.skins. Bears.
They can all take him.
by OU JJ on Dec 5, 2011 11:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Cowgirls. Romo + Landry = 1 whole qb
by OU JJ on Dec 5, 2011 11:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Raiders don't have a 1st or 2nd rounder for like the next 5 years
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 5, 2011 11:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
doesn't really take an expert to see the flaws in Landry's
Much like it doesn’t take an expert to the see the same in a guy like Case McCoy.
You are certainly earning yourself a reputation here of being an expert on criticizing, ridiculing, or generally talking down other people’s opinions though. IMO.
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I take it
having your hips squared to the line of scrimmage is the correct form then.
seriously…..when was the last time you went to Ames? ever?
ponder went 12
sanchez went 5
landry can certainly go top 15
i hope he leaves, because we need to move on
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 5, 2011 11:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
+ elevnty gazillion gabillion trimillion quartillion light fricken YEARS!
.bq i hope he leaves, because we need to move on.
My thoughts exactly. You know I have been telling this forum for 4 years that anyone can make any stat prove what they want. Happy Feet Fumble Fingered Jack Rabbit Scared Jones’ stats show him to be a top CFB QB and a 5 pick for the NFL. Please let me show him the door.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
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Just for the amazing numbers! LMAO!
by SCKSChief on Dec 5, 2011 6:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I dont understand
What has Bell shown at all this year that he can be a solid qb? I do not understand all of the Landry hate, he is a borderline top five college qb. I thought Ponder was good when he left but after going through EJ for a year, I know realize how good Ponder actually was. Be careful what you wish for
by seminolesfan567 on Dec 5, 2011 11:56 AM CST reply actions
When he's on, he's on
Problem is he is so inconsistent. Keeps turning the ball over and making the same costly mistakes because, appartently, he gets to gittery in the pocket.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Dec 5, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Need to watch every game like we do
The guy can’t hack it. Bell might not BE the answer, but we have to find one. Landry is NOT the answer.
LJ makes the same mistakes over & over
No improvement at all from bedlam 10 to bedlam Saturday. No leadership skills. Watch his sideline demeanor, no respect from teamstes (not named broyles). Bell is the one on the sidelines trying to encourage & pump up. Body language. He has intangibles Landry doesn’t. Case McSuck at texass has more intangibles than Landry. And he’s started 3freaking years.
by OU JJ on Dec 5, 2011 12:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Since sooner music is all worried:
Respect was repoire….
AUTOCORRECT dang iphone
by OU JJ on Dec 5, 2011 12:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We sound ungrateful
Good Landry goes through his reads properly, hits his recievers in stride, never forces a pass, and takes Whitney out for dinner on a Sunday evening. He is a top 5 QB and is worthy of Heisman hype.
Bad Landry shuffles his feet, stares down his targets, leaves his recievers hanging, and tracks mud into your house. He never settles his nerves and looks like a deer in the headlights.
I wish I could tell them apart before the game, but they both have mustaches.
by BringBackTopDawg on Dec 5, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
sadly bad landry has a hand in 2 losses last year.
more sadly it was 3 losses this year. In a year we were LOADED.
I have contacted your AD and HC, JOne is on his way to your place.
visit with us after having him for a year.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
What's your source for this:
“no respect from teamstes (not named broyles).” I hope it’s solid…
Auto correct sorry !
Was trying to say repoire…..
Interactions on the sidelines & his demeanor. He & broyles often were together. But not do much with anyone else
by OU JJ on Dec 5, 2011 12:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Repoire
iPhone corrected to replied when I typed it that time….. Sorry
by OU JJ on Dec 5, 2011 12:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
is that french for report?
make it easy and say Landry doesn’t have many ‘buds’ or ‘chums’ or ‘pals’ on the team. He really doesn’t have many on this forum either and definitely none at my house.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Rapport? I'm pretty sure you can't judge that either from your perspective.
When there’s something to criticize, go ahead and criticize, but that’s nonsense.
sorry dude.
But it’s what I see on the sidelines, lack of interaction with other players…. Except RB. Sorry you find that criticizing.
by OU JJ on Dec 5, 2011 12:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
LJ said there were issues like this early on in his career at Oklahoma
whose to say they don’t still exist?
by SoonerGoneEast on Dec 5, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I like Landry....think he is probably a good guy
and I wish him well in the NFL. It just seems like after 3 years he still doesn’t have the nerve to stand in the pocket and get the job done.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Dec 5, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
Especially
For a guy that rarely gets hit. David Carr showed more pocket poise when he played for the Texans.
by SCKSChief on Dec 5, 2011 6:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dear Mr. Wizard,
First my team collapses in an embarrassing heap on prime time tv, and now I get a “dude” on the forum. Could this season get any worse? :-) Should I tell her “It’s Mr. dude to you” or just let it go… ok, you’re right, I should let it go
Landry Jones
Whatever poor NFL team drafts Landry Jones needs to fire its scouting director. He is a soft player that seems to possess very little leadership potential. All he’ll require (other than a huge paycheck/signing bonus) is a nice clipboard and a cool baseball cap because all he’ll ever do is send signals in from the bench. Total bust…
stop this immediately, we never ev er want anyone to talk like that about the all time stat leader from OU
we want to make it so that he is so un-friggen-resistible that every team from here to Alpha Cenatauri wants him to be their QB.
;-)
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
Alpha Centauri...lol....forgot about their team.
"Gentlemen we must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
by leatherneck1061 on Dec 5, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
LMAO
Bad landry tracks mud in the house…CLASSIC…
I think that if given time he will be a very successful QB in the pros. He will have to develop some better leadership skills, and that can happen.
He did take FULL accountability for the bedlam loss, according to the articles I read. so he is making progress. I just think that we should try to move on next year…
Bell may not be the answer, but I’d like to see the kid try. I watched the game film on him, and for anybody who says the kid can’t throw has not watch any of that film.
Football, in its purest form, remains a physical fight. As in any fight, if you don't want to fight, it's impossible to win." Bud Wilkinson
All kidding aside. Landry has represented the university with class & diginity. I wouldnt wish this year upon anyone.
I truly wish him the best possible future.
He is a nice guy & a nice qb. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying he should not be a 4 year starter at OU. We have NEVER had a QB start more than 2 seasons since the Gary Gibbs era. Thats is a 2 edged sword. I sincerely feel he has hit his ceiling, hence the continued same mistakes.
I like him so much that I will hold the door open for him when he leaves, tell him good luck, wish him well and all that good ol mushy crap
inside, I am thanking every power to be that he has moved on, and saying a prayer that the next QB at OU has BallZ and steady feet.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
saying a QB is a nice guy is like saying your prom date has a nice personality.
In Big Money DQ College Football nice does not get it. Tbo’s team mates did not call him a nice guy, they called him a football player. Team mates did not call Biily Simms, Steve Owens, Jason White or Sam Bradford nice guys. They called them Football players. I am sure they included the words ‘good’,‘smart’ and ‘tough’ in there some where as well.
IMHO ‘nice’ doesn’t get it.
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
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