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My Vote of "No Confidence"

Bumped from FanPosts, great job 919!


CC said it in his previous post, "execution".

No, as much as some of you might like it, I'm not talking about executing certain coaches.

I was up late last night, thinking about OU's season and its future, and why I should even watch any more games this year. I asked myself: "really, why are we doing so poorly?" The answer is obvious: the Sooners just aren't executing on the road. But again, why? As I thought about their dismal record, only one thing kept coming to mind. Two individuals on this team have completely lost my confidence. And one of them is NOT Brent Venables.

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Let me explain further. There have been times in past seasons where I was extremely unhappy with Brent's performance. However, given what he's working with this year, I would have to say that he has done pretty well. There have been times this year, and the second half last night was a good example (I will differ a bit here from JTE's evaluation of the defense last night), where he made some adjustments and got the defense back in somewhat-working order. We also should admit that we only did as well as we did last year because of Brent Venables and his defense. Until the debacle at Texas Tech, we had lost 4 games by a combined total of 12 points, and we were only in those games because the defense held up so well. With all the inexperience he's working with this year, I'm thrilled that he's done as well as he has.

But that's it for my leniency. Two individuals deserve to be removed from their current positions at OU.

The first is Landry Jones. He has consistently proven that he's nothing more than a placeholder while we wait for the next great OU quarterback to come along (Blake Bell? Kendal Thompson?). I said in the game thread that he reminds me of Nate Hybl, and the comparison really couldn't be more apt. Sure, Hybl won us a Rose Bowl. But the conditions in that game were the ones in which he was able to thrive. Great protection, no reasons to panic.  Because when things got rough, that's what Hybl did...he panicked. Sure, he could take hits...but the thing with Hybl was, if you started getting to him, he got rattled very easily and would usually be thrown out of his rhythm. He also was not very good under pressure (and I'm not talking about pass-rush pressure), and he wasn't much of a leader. Does any of this sound familiar?

We were spoiled with Sam Bradford, the latest in a line of incredible QBs under Bob Stoops. It started with Mr. Cool himself, Josh Heupel. Then Jason White came along, and I am positive he would've led us to even more greatness than he did if he hadn't blown out both knees. Later we had Bradford, and we know how that was. All three of those guys were the total package. Intangibles: calm, confident demeanor...the ability to lead the offense down the field, regardless of the circumstances...the ability to make plays...good judgment in tough spots...amazing even-keeled consistency. Talent: pinpoint accuracy...good arms...good if not Vince-Young-like mobility. These guys are the prototypical quarterback for the Bob Stoops system. Landry Jones is lacking many of these qualities, and those he does possess do not show themselves with the sort of regularity that this team demands. He's a good player, and could start for probably 75% of the D-I teams. But he's not the guy to lead us to our next National Championship...and frankly, with all the young talent that we DO have, I think we've reached the point where we start looking to the future. Landry is not the future any more; he can't be, if we're serious about playing for championships. This is where even the Hybl comparison fails...Hybl at least got us a Big 12 Championship and won both his bowl games. I am not confident we'll get a Big 12 Championship with Jones at quarterback.

The second person who has lost my confidence is Kevin Wilson. I have never, ever been one to call for the firing of an OU coach. I always figured that the guys in the program knew the score better than I did, and that who we had was who we had. (The lone exception was John Blake, and that was just too obvious a call.) With all the success that Stoops has had, I have been very lenient and deferred to his judgment. I can no longer do this.

It's true that Wilson instituted the no-huddle, and that has proven a great upgrade for us. But as an example of Wilson's questionable tactical decision-making, he often waters down this high-powered upgrade with multiple, unnecessary audibles and line-checks that end up slowing things back down and giving the defense the time to adjust prior to the snap (and sometimes, take so long that they force OU to burn time-outs because Wilson just can't find the "right play"). The offense has shown time and again that when they have a call, get up to the line quickly, get set, and go, they can consistently produce good results and score lots of points. All too often, though, Wilson lets up off the gas, in his constant quest for "The Perfect Play Call". (How many of you, like me, have found yourself watching this ridiculous tendency and screaming at the screen, "JUST RUN THE F$^#ING PLAY!!!"?) Sometimes it really is better to just run the play and trust in your guys to execute it.

Beyond tactical play-calling...there's the strategic game-planning. Wilson never seems to get this going the right way. A prime example is OU's offensive game plan against Missouri. That team had given up 250 rushing yards to lowly San Diego State. And yet, our offensive game plan against the Tigers has a 2-1 pass-to-run ratio. In last night's game, in the third quarter, Wilson had recommitted to the run...and with great success; we scored all of our points during the point where we were running more. Yet, when we needed to keep the momentum going, we fell back to Landry Jones and the passing game, which had been mediocre all night and saw Landry overcooking throws with regularity (a common issue for him in high-pressure situations). This reminds me of Chuck Long's decision-making against LSU way back in the 2004 BCS Championship game, when we scratched and clawed our way back into that hard-fought game with the run, only to try to get "cute" and leave it behind for the passing game when it was showing the most success. Give your guys the right call to execute, and they'll get it done.

Execute...there's that word again, so let's hit that the hardest. Wilson is unable to get his guys to consistently execute. Even in the good times, when OU was running up 60+ points a game and we got to the BCS Championship game, it was our inability to execute offensively that killed us. Remember the stuff at the goal line late in the first half against Florida? Make that play, score that touchdown, and we're in great position. Instead, we hand momentum back over to Florida, and the rest was all downhill for OU. Wilson is unable to prepare his players, and unable to motivate them to consistently play at the highest level...ESPECIALLY on the road, where the highest level MUST ALWAYS be reached in order to ensure success. Dropped balls...poor blocking...no pass protection...if we didn't have great players who are consistently able to perform under pressure like Murray, Broyles, Stills, and Finch, our offense would be in much worse shape than it is.

This in itself is another issue at Wilson's feet...why are those four guys the only ones who seem to be able to step up their play with consistency? OU is always able to recruit great offensive talent. Yet in Wilson's time with OU, most of those talented players have fallen strangely flat (with a few exceptions). Why, with all of the top-shelf receivers we have, are only Broyles and Stills able to perform? Why aren't the other guys getting it done? Is Wilson just not handling the personnel he has correctly? Are his coaches not doing it right? We know Wilson has some top coaching talent as well...Heupel's there, Gundy's there with the running backs and they're doing pretty well...what's missing? We have far too much talent to see it go to waste with this awful execution on the field.

So, to sum up, i have to give my vote of "no confidence" in Landry Jones and Kevin Wilson. We can find suitable replacements for each, and I fully believe that the time has come for Bob Stoops to do so.

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Downfield passing game

First I must say that I totally agree with you regarding the Landry Jones comparison with Nate Hybl but it took an injury to get him out of the lineup. I hope that they see his struggles on the road and look to some possible adjustments such as playing another QB in a possible wildcat formation or something.

I believe as far as the offense goes it may have gotten too complex. They attempt to do too many things instead of doing fewer things really well. I can remember a time recently when near the goal line OU would run the power O (pull backside lineman and lead through the B gap) and it worked like clockwork or they would fake the run and hit the full back in the flat (JD Runnels made this play famous). They need to just do a few things well. Please KW find a counter game.

Last week we attacked down the field and were very productive with multiple plays but this week when the game was in doubt we used few down field plays. Would like to see more down field passing because that will open up the swing passes and flat routes to the running backs as well as the run game.

Ripdawg

by seespr97 on Nov 7, 2010 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

I agree with this

But again, it demonstrates that Wilson is not doing what he needs to do here. We could even guess that he’s originally calling more downfield plays than we’re seeing, but that he’s checking out of many of them in search of that “Perfect Play Call”. Who knows what his initial calls are? We almost never see them.

He has run the old JD Runnels play a few times this year with Millard, who obviously has real potential at fullback and could become the next JD Runnels. But that is yet another one of those plays that seem to work well for us with regularity but get left in the playbook when we need some creativity or a different look. Again, play-calling FAIL.

by ousooner919 on Nov 7, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

runs

My suspicion is that he’s not calling runs cause the line is not able to block effectively for the run, so he has to try to create a fake run game with the bubble passes. He may be more creative than he’s getting credit for, working around weaknesses in the offense. I also think that Franks, and before injury, DeJuan Miller also have come through, so your criticism of the receivers may be too harsh as well.

by soonermusic on Nov 7, 2010 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

This was a thought of mine

but how could he so easily ditch it when it seemed to be working in the second half? Our backs were doing pretty well, so the line had to be doing something right.

I will grant that Franks is doing all right, and Miller was prior to the injury, as well. But given all of our talent (we have A LOT of “high-quality” WRs), it shouldn’t be so sporadic or difficult to find another guy to fill a void, and it really has seemed to be difficult over the past couple of years. I am thrilled that some guys are (Stills, Miller, Franks), and I hope they continue to do so. Stills in particular REALLY has stepped up and looks like he’ll easily join the likes of Clayton and Broyles among the great OU WRs under Stoops. But we at least need some consistency, and it’s been very difficult finding it.

by ousooner919 on Nov 8, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I honestly think you guys are giving KW too much credit

my real thoughts on KW, when his little crappy plan doesn’t work he has no backup plan. NONE. Panic mode sets in, he is very good keep ‘panic mode’ under wraps. But at that point he does not know what to do. Now why does he not have a plan, because he has only set the scheme to what his players can do.That is wrong. Make a system that works all around, and the players learn it or they don’t play.Simple.

The quickest way to a destination is a straight line. Want a team to play good. Put the plan on paper→ give it to the players→run it→ Straight→shortest distance→Goal accomplished

by scarab on Nov 8, 2010 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

And I think you all don't appreciate the constraints he has to deal with

You’ve seen Landry’s down field ability. Tell me high percentage completion bubble screens aren’t a bad idea when your qb overthrows wide open wide receivers by 15 yards.

Plus you can’t simply bench players who make consistent mistakes when the alternative is as bad or worse. No matter what you think of these coaches, they see these players everyday in practice. Just because they coach major college football I’m assuming that they’re above average judges of talent. Maybe you or whoever you want to replace them with knows better but take a legitimate look at our players and tell me this is a national title contender. That this team “well coached” could go out and beat any team in the country.

by SoonerDutch on Nov 8, 2010 6:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You Got It!!!

You hit the nail on the head with clarity.
In addition – we need to add the quaterback option to the offensive arsenal and have a QB who can run the ball effectively.
’Nuff said.
From the folks at www.sunsstufft.com.

by fedres on Nov 8, 2010 5:15 PM CST reply actions  

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