Are The Sooners The New Team Everyone Loves To Hate?
by dishingoutdimes on Oct 19, 2010 2:38 AM CDT
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PrintI thought this question deserved to be asked after I saw a comment from Redhawk on the site:
I too was getting the feeling we are the most hated program in college football right now. Even Notre Dame, and USC are getting passes
I "googled" different versions of "most hated team in college football", but I couldn't come up with a site that had any hard poll numbers, just a lot of different lists that people threw together. One person's opinion doesn't really help answer the question.
If you look at it logically, the usual suspects are all having somewhat down years - USC, Notre Dame (okay, they're having a bad stretch of years), Florida, Miami, etc. This leaves OU as a team that is drawing a lot of ire, especially with the #1 ranking in the BCS, and especially with ESPN pushing the idea that this is a conspiracy by 6 computer rankings.
Voice your opinion in the comments section, and of course, vote in the poll that I'm attaching to this story.
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the Sooners are getting blasted there.
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In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
I don't think so....
Of course there will always be that natural hate I have for OU being a Longhorns, but I think the most hated team is always the “Flavor of the Week” team. For a long time that has been USC and FLorida/Tim Tebow. I know people are pissed about Oregon not being #1, but you do have to look at the collective strength of schedules right now. I know OU’s schedule looks a lot better because the teams on there are 23-16 I believe, whereas Oregon’s is pretty much the reversal around I believe 15-27 or something like that. The best thing OU has going for them on their schedule is FSU and Texas. I do think after what has happened these past two weekends that it worked out for OU’s favor. People are always going to be pissed about the BCS rankings, but it is what it is and I learned to accept it after the ‘08 season. OU controls it’s own destiny, win out and there is no argument.
Dear Beergut,
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
strength of schedule
is NOT supposed to count anymore. Personally I think that’s a joke, but I found it odd that the fools in bristol last night were angry that “margin of victory” was not a factor in the computer rankings but were considered by the “human polls” (human is being generous IMO). I don’t see how you can have it both ways.
Team FIRST, Effort SECOND, Talent THIRD, Selfish NEVER
if OU is not the most hated team
who is?
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Oh yeah.....
I forgot to say, that right now I think the “Flavor of the Week” team, is Alabama. Even after getting embarassed on the road ESPN still puts them in the BCS MNC if they win out and win the SEC. Obviously undefeated OU/Oregon teams will keep that from happening, but I also think that undefeated Boise St./TCU will keep that from happening as long as the teams in front of them lose.
Dear Beergut,
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Yahoo/rivals doesn't like OU this week
Not a single mention of OU in a full page column discussing week 8 CFB
todays column week 8 watch:
They open up the article with: Oregon aims to avoid starting a trend.The Ducks have ascended to No. 1 in the polls, if not the BCS standings
Best game: LSU at Auburn,
Don’t overlook this one: Michigan State at Northwestern
On the midweek marqueeCoach under the gun: Texas A&M’s Mike ShermanUCLA at Oregon,
Best coordinator chess match: Auburn offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn vs. LSU defensive
BCS-buster watch: Navy vs. Notre Dame
Best individual matchup of the week: Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon vs. Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara
Best unit matchup of the week: Wisconsin offensive line vs. Iowa defensive line
Not one mention of OU, Hate for OU? I don’t know but it sure is ‘the silent treatment’
Really? LSU at Auburn?
Jesus if there is a team I hate more than the Sooners, it is LSU. Nick Saban shows up wins a MNC, takes off. Les Miles wins one with Saban’s recruits with a two loss team (remember the only 2 loss NC team ever) and fans talk about how great LSU is. They seem to forget LSU’s only other NC came in 1959 and at were best a mediocre program between 1959 and 2003. Hey kinda sounds like A&M. This LSU team is on the brink of implosion and I think it starts this weekend. Oh yeah, ESPN if I here one more Mad Hatter reference I may fly up to Bristol and rip somebodies face off.
Dear Beergut,
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by HornsRiverine on Oct 19, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
+1
Others receiving votes: Texas
by KratosWasASooner on Oct 19, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want any band wagon haters.
I was hating before it was popular. But seriously, they’ll hate somebody else next year, but espn does have a conflict of interest with the BCS since they are financially tied to the matchups.
OSU, running a soft zone since 2004
by AUKingOState on Oct 19, 2010 8:00 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Nice.
Gotta appreciate someone loyal to the hatin’. Pokes fan, of course! I must say, however, I do actually almost always agree with and/or enjoy your comments though.
by soonergal5 on Oct 21, 2010 1:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ESPN
Oklahoma has definitely been one of the more hated teams on ESPN. College Football Live is a total joke in the sense that their commentators generally have pretty biased opinions. For the announcers on there to call OU “overrated” it’s almost like they haven’t watched any of OU’s games. For starters while the final scores of the games have been close, OU led most of those teams by three possessions in the third quarter and the coaches let off the gas. The same guys didn’t say anything about Alabama when they barely survived Arkansas, who only beat Texas A&M by a touchdown (what does that say about the cream of the crop in the SEC, A&M has been horrible.) The ESPN commentators also, for the most part, are acting like this ranking in the computers is temporary. When you look at OU’s schedule, away games against ranked opponents are looming, Missouri and Oklahoma State, not to mention a Big XII title game against, most likely, Nebraska. So I don’t see the Sooners losing much steam in the computer rankings. The funniest part for me, is that while these commentators are running their mouths about where teams should be ranked in the BCS, they forget the whole point of the computer rankings, taking the bias out. The SEC is good, but not miles ahead of the other conferences like it is implied. OU had every chance to beat Florida in 2008, and might have if they had kicked two field goals at the end of the first half, and Texas would have been really competitive with Alabama last year with their first string quarterback. I do think another conference needs to win the title to unseat the SEC, but the gap between conferences grows smaller every year.
+1000
"I don't like Texas. I don't like the city of Austin. And I don't like the color orange. It reminds me of puke." The Boz
by Jordan Esco on Oct 19, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
WHO CARES !!!
Who cares what they thank….love us or hate us..we are #1 and if they want it they have to come and take it…..GO SOONERS!!!!
I CARE
simply because of the incredible influence that flows out of Bristol. Coaches have an agenda and the morons who vote on the Harris Poll probably do as well, BUT, both groups are too DAMN lazy to actually watch the games and therefore tune into the “source” and that is what they base their vote on. How could they vote OU high when all they hear is how over-rated they are every time they turn on sportscenter?
Team FIRST, Effort SECOND, Talent THIRD, Selfish NEVER
Agreed
When you’re a voter, it takes a lot less work to tune in on SportsCenter or College Football Live and hear their talking heads gab about our struggles against Utah State and Cincinatti (totally ignoring or undervaluing Florida State or Texas).
I
t takes more work and time to watch an actual game and make your own decision about a team. ESPiN has a large influence on many of those voting in the polls. I wouldn’t be surprised if most voters quickly adjusted their polls because of such influence.
this post on yahoo message boards by a Sooner Fan in response to OU deserving...
Soonersrock20
Re: Who believes that OU deserves the top spot? Reply
Clearly I am a Sooner fan, but I would have to say that Alabama is the toughest looking team in the country to me at this point even though they slipped up on the road at SC. That is just my own personal opinion.
As far as the BCS poll goes it’s a mistake to even think the word “deserves” when talking about it. Who “deserves” what is not a question to try and answer with a mathematical formula. Oklahoma is atop the computer polls (and thus the BCS poll) right now simply because a few years back margin of victory was forcedly removed from the computer models.
Ironically MOV was taken out because OU was running up the score on teams and people thought that was unfair. Now flash forward to this season and OU is once again the darling of the computers precisely BECAUSE margin of victory was removed. With all the close calls over lesser teams the Sooners have had this year there is no way we would be atop computer polls the way they were originally designed to work. The same thing happened with QWP in the first part of the last decade.
It seems like every time the BCS is tweaked it’s because someone didn’t think OU “deserved” one of the top two spots, then inevitably the tweak ends up sending the Sooners right back to the top of the poll a year or two later.
Call it “Sooner Magic” 3dGrin
I like the soonersrocks20 method of explaining Sooner Magic.
I totally think OU is the most hated team
there isn’t anyone getting near the ire we are generating right now. I find it odd that ESPN is so against us….the only reason the Big 12 exists is because of ESPN/ABC promising to keep it alive with a big new contract this summer.
And it does matter. For those living in Oklahoma, you are sheltered. You can be cavalier as you walk down the streets of Tulsa or Oklahoma City in your OU shirt or hat. But living in Denver, I feel I’m asking for a fist fight doing that now. (heck I’m asking for extra security for the OU/CU game at our watch party because of the late start, drunks in masks and that we are playing CU a group on normal days think throwing batteries and beer bottles at fans is appropriate response to other teams)
Would the out rage over OU being #1 be close if it were Oregon, Auburn or even Boise St or TCU? Or…gasp…a one loss Alabama team? I don’t think it would be anywhere close. Yes, I think OU is the most hated college team in the nation.
If not OU…I challenge anyone to name a more hated team (and if you pick Texas, make sure you are doing it with your Crimson and Creme glasses off)
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I don't think it's an issue of hate
Right now people are just feeling insulted by the thought of OU being #1 the way they have in the past over teams like Boise St or Ohio State. It just doesn’t sit well with fans because no one has really been paying attention to OU – they have been accustomed to thinking the best teams in the country this year are Alabama, Ohio State, etc. The talent on the Sooners team is still quite latent at this point but emerging quickly. Once the Sooners demonstrate consistently how good they are, people will more readily accept them.
by leatherneck1061 on Oct 19, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
but I think the feelings are deeper
than just controversy over #1. There seems to be an extra vile in the spit coming from all over. And it’s because right now…OU I think it the most hated team in America.
For many fans…that’s a hard one to wear and except. But if it helps…no one hates a loser
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i love the fact
that FANS hate OU. That probably means that OU just kicked their favorite team’s ASS. My problem is the lack of objectivity and unabashed dislike from the morons in Bristol. Who wouldn’t love to have a job where they could just spit out their “opinion” and there are ZERO consequences.
In my perfect world, OU wins the national championship and post-game, when anyone from Bristol asks a question, Bob’s response is “NEXT QUESTION.”
Team FIRST, Effort SECOND, Talent THIRD, Selfish NEVER
I guess my assesment would be more along the lines of
OU is the most hated team in Bristol Connecticut rather than most hated in America. The rest of the public just needs to be convinced by more impressive victories and not choking in the 4th quarter. I remember vividly the anti Ohio State vitriol both on the web and the airwaves in 2007 when they got into the NC and EVERYONE knew they didn’t deserve to be there. Of course, the groveling tools at ESPN could only bring themselves to criticize Ohio State so much – it was the fans around the country calling television and radio shows and commenting online that made their voices heard. OU just needs to stay focused and win……and ignore the sniveling homers at Entertainment and Sports Propaganda Network.
by leatherneck1061 on Oct 19, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
it's practically impossible
for them to take bad about Ohio State since the “voice of college football” is an alumnus, and he’s a lot like diarrhea – you have no control over the flow, but you wish like hell it would go away. Basically the same could be said for smith – another alumnus
Team FIRST, Effort SECOND, Talent THIRD, Selfish NEVER
ESPN
and idiots like Cowherd are all piling on OU right now. Cowherd justifies it by saying he doesn’t think OU fans really believe they’re that good either. The truth is I would not rank OU #1 at thispoint in the season. Two weeks from now though it could be entirely different, and I think this team is growing at light speed right now. Bottom line, this team has an embarrassment of riches, and over time they are going to be scary good.
by leatherneck1061 on Oct 19, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions
The cowboys are 1-4
So im happy regardless!
by AllenOU on Oct 19, 2010 12:46 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What holes do we have
I don’t see any. Maybe kicker
by AllenOU on Oct 19, 2010 1:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Umm, sounds like more locker room board material for the coaches to put up.
Good keep building that chip bigger I say.
I think the national perpective is that our D is not good at all
They just look at stats and see our rankings.
Yeah
I heard Cowturd say earlier we didn’t have anyone who can tackle in space…LMAO! Next he’ll say Michael Phelps would drown in a kiddie pool.
by leatherneck1061 on Oct 19, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
EVERY fan of EVERY undefeated team hates us.
With the possible exception of Oregon.
You should hear the Sparties going off about us.
The comments I get all center around ‘Stoops cannot win on the road!’ “Remember last year”.
Well last year was last year.
I can tell you this, I’d rather be where we are than in any other position in that BCS mess.
mjc
Don't forget
EVERY fan of EVERY non-AQ school also hates us, as their value or possible value is derived from Boise St/TCU/Utah getting to the BCS NC game.
which makes no sense…as they SHOULD be hating on all the love a one loss Bama team is getting right now. I mean if they go undefeated, and bumped by Bama….But that’s why I think OU is the most hated team…it’s US in #1..and that’s fueling the fire.
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that is right last year IS last year
and so was 2000, 2001, 2005, 2008 and oh yeah what last 1950, last 1954, last 1955, last 1974, last 1975, last 1985 and again last 2000. The punks want to play last years but they don’t and won’t acknowledge all of the ‘last years’
A big happy eff them to the haters.
And during the years betwee the seven NC’s, each coach and team played for more NC’s but just lost a game here or there at the end. The King lost more than 1 NC opportunity on the last game of the year, and do I have to tell anyone here what The King said about when asked? His answer would be deleted because it sounded alot like my ‘A big happy..’ above.
Now for me I solve my ESPIN hate by trashing their name and their reporters every opportunity I get. I also never ever watching their crap. I have told a lot of folks, ‘Friends don’t let friends do ESPIN’. Believe me, no one in my house watches ESPIN on my stuff and when I go to someone else’s place I try to change the channel from ESPIN. The hate for OU that ESPIN has, I have for ESPIN.
That's OK, I like wearing my black cowboy hat with my Sooner Jersey
Here in Dallas, it can be fun being the fan of the “Hated and Feared” Sooners!
I am in Wichita falls, I got the drunk tech fans still griping about the whooping of 08!
by OU JJ on Oct 19, 2010 7:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes,
I hate when we are on the receiving side of onside kicks!!! I nearly vomit from nervousness when it happens. I just have flashbacks to the ball being 1/2 yard short of where it legally should be and the opposite team recovering…and replay didn’t get it right!!! The agony! THE AGONY!!!!!!!!!!!
You mean
The ball being 1 and half yards short and we recover it yet the refs give it to the team who didn’t have the ball when the play was over.
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No!
You showed me a picture and made me remember just exactly how terrible it was! And right before bed too! I’ll have nightmares! Lol. Jk. Oh how I’d like us to “hang half a hundred” on Oregon as well. Haha.
by soonergal5 on Oct 21, 2010 1:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Orange Bowl 04
Is the problem. Everyone still sees that debacle as the reason OU should never get any love. “we screwed USC” out of the Sugar Bowl in the eyes of all ESPN watchers & there fore got what we deserved & should get no more opportunities. THis situation is 08 all over again. Only earlier in the year.
We may never be the most hated team in America. But we are very polar. Everybody knows somebody who HATES OU……
Agreed. I am just saying that perception pisses off other fan bases.
by OU JJ on Oct 19, 2010 7:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Hate" the Sooners?
I have yet to see an ostentatious or pompous exhibition by an OU football player; I hope I don’t. Couple that on-field behavior with their off-field hospital activities and I must ask, “why the animus?”. Winning? Then, “stay the course”.
by Sooner Soccer Dad on Oct 19, 2010 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
No.
Not in the sense that is problematic anyway. What’s really a problem are media darlings. Teams that are pushed simply because repeatedly pushing them helps to build a larger audience of casual and bandwagon fans. Thus, you have teams that appeal to large population bases within that sport (Yankees in New York, USC and Lakers in LA, Cowboys and Longhorns in Texas, Notre Dame and anyone raised catholic without a stronger allegiance, and coming this fall the Heat in Florida) who get tons of unearned credit because it helps build an audience. (This isn’t necessarily done purposefully, though it’s hard to see how anyone who actually follows these games for a living could be so stupid as to not realize that it’s a phenomenon that shapes their profession significantly. So, you have to think they’re at least conscious of it.)
It’s perfectly natural for people who are fans of the game, people who would want to watch the game being played for its own sake even outside their own rooting interest, to hate media darlings. You want to watch the game, but the network is busy hyping the darlings so they can sell 4 different kinds of light domestic beer to as many cattle as possible.
Oklahoma doesn’t have a problem getting respect from the media, but it’s pretty largely earned. They’ve simply had more sustained success over the last decade than any other program. Oklahoma may have lost several marquee games, but they’ve refused to fade from the top of the game for anything more than a hiccup. If oklahoma makes the title game this year (a very real possibility) they will have played in 5 title games in 11 years. That’s almost every other year. No other team has a decade long track record they can point to as almost a guarantee that anyone who chooses to play at Oklahoma will be on a title game roster. Think about it. Oklahoma has twice as many BCS title game appearances as any other team over the last decade, and they are far from in danger of being the subject of a Disney “Are they the greatest ever?” special. Oklahoma is not a media darling, and they never will be. There aren’t enough people in the state, and the state of Texas has organized it’s universities as to create a single flag-ship school which will inevitably draw most of the regional casual and bandwagon audience.
Oklahoma is almost nobody’s favorite, because they are consistently in the way of other rooting interests. People gripe about them losing, but they wouldn’t be any more popular if they won. But, without being a media darling, they won’t ever be the most hated team in the game.
The main candidate for this year is actually Boise State, who won’t attract a big bandwagon audience (too bush-league for the insecure types trying to latch onto a winner), but would attract a large casual audience. Boise State could actually be the best team in the country this year, but their schedule makes it difficult for them to earn one of an admittedly ridiculous 2 spots for title consideration. They simply won’t deserve it even if they’re the best team. Someone else will have done more. Boise will get the benefit of every doubt, because most football fans are going to tune into the title game regardless of who is in it, and Boise would attract a big casual audience.
I just realized
That poll needed to say “most hated on team” and then I think the results might have been different. That seems to be the crux of what most people are saying (I think anyway), as “most hated” seems to have a different conotation than “most hated on.”
"I don't like Texas. I don't like the city of Austin. And I don't like the color orange. It reminds me of puke." The Boz
good point
"I don't like Texas. I don't like the city of Austin. And I don't like the color orange. It reminds me of puke." The Boz
DISRESPECT!!!!!!!!!111!!1!!!!!!
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you would also get a different result
if the question was: “who is the most hated program in college football”
with the answers being a multiple choice list, like USC, Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio St, Texas, Oklahoma, Boise St, Florida, other
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Hmmm...
I must say I am enjoying the travesty of an offense coming out of both Florida and Texas this year… :-D
I’ve never hated Ohio State. They always find ways to beat themselves and I kinda see them as similar to OU; with all the “big game” criticism and all. The media doesn’t ever completely dote upon them either.
by soonergal5 on Oct 21, 2010 1:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hate is another form of envy
“How is it that OU has surpassed Oregon?” CFB fans/analysts just aren’t happy with OU’s inconsistent performance this season. I think this weekend’s game will be very important in dismissing doubts. Then, hate will turn into respect.
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