Jeffcoat to texass?
by jtesooner on Jan 29, 2010 8:05 AM CST
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According to SI, there's no need for us to even get our hopes up for his 10 a.m. announcement. Take it for what it's worth, but I'm going to wait until it's official before giving in to the disappointment for one important reason. Jeffcoat's recruitment has been kept as quiet as any big time recruit in recent history. So there's definitely some reason to question the validity of this "source" and the timing of this info slipping out. It may very well wind up going down just like they say, but it's not like these kids never change their mind at the last minute or anything right?
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bad sign?
According to ESPN and OUInsider.com:
Under Armour All-American Corey Nelson drops Aggies for Sooners
Four-star outside linebacker Corey Nelson (Dallas/Skyline) decommitted from Texas A&M late Thursday night and is now on board with Oklahoma, ESPN affiliate Web site OUInsider.com reports.
The ESPNU 150 prospect had scheduled an official visit to USC for this weekend but now indicates that he is finished with the recruiting process.
Could this be an indicator that the SI rumor is true? Could really go either way as both Nelson and Jeffcoat were in Norman last weekend for an official visit. I’d REALLY like to believe that Stoops and Co. closed them both (fingers crossed) that weekend!
Forget about Nelson
It’s been reported that his decommit was inaccurate and he will remain w/ ATM. OU still has one spot to fill after missing on Jeffcoat and apparently not convincing Nelson. The OT Cullen would be the most likely name to fill it, but he’s very likely headed to U$C. So my guess is OU is done and assuming all the current verbals sign has assembled a very talented class.
I’ll stop just short of declaring them the best players in the country, unlike our friends over on BON and their incoming class. I get that they’re excited w/ the commits of Jeffcoat and Hicks today, but even for a whorn they’re pretty over the top on BON today. They’ve, much like us and everyone else, have had plenty of kids no pan out so while you’d expect them to be pretty excited you’d also expect them to be smart enough not to proclaim some of the things I’ve read over there today. How about we let them play a couple games first before making them All-Americans, ok?
umm, most Texas fans realize we’re the #2 class in the country. and we can be as happy as we want knowing we (if all goes to plan to NSD) will have Mack’s best defensive class ever and plenty of baller players to plug into the beast.
by Displaced Longhorn on Jan 29, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
I have no issue with that
I’d be pretty happy right now if we had gotten Jeffcoat as well. What I’m taking issue with is the assumption that I’ve read on BON that every kid coming in is going to be a superstar. We’re all well aware that five star kids turn out to be busts and two or three star kids can be studs. There’s nothing wrong w/ being excited, but proclaiming things like “we’re going to have the best d-line in the country and it isn’t even going to be close” based on three incoming frosh and one on campus is a pretty ridiculous statement.
The general consensus I’ve seen from texas fan is that OU is going to be so down again next year and texas is just reloading. So the expectations are that you lose your top two and basically only players on offense, three linemen, and your top four defenders and you’re better off than OU? Good luck with that.
HEY Jackson, your sister is a Sooner!
crap.
Happens in the recruiting wars.
And to put in perspective, 1/3 of these kids will be starters, 1/3 kids will play and contribute, and a 1/3 of these kids we’ll never hear from again.
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That's what I don't understand
Jeffcoat reportedly said that his “comfort level with Austin” was higher. Wow, I wonder who he’s going to root for when his sister takes on the Lady Whorns.
by HoustonSooner on Jan 29, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
To each his own
With his sister and possibly his dad in Norman, not sure how he could be more comfortable. That said, no ill will towards the kid at all. He made the choice he thought was best for him and any sane person will respect that. Hopefully he has a successful career outside of games played in Dallas on an annual basis.
Losses all around
Nelson is committed to ATM (Texas A&M); see Jake Trotters blog
Jeffcoat is off to Texas
Jordan Hicks (a top rated LB from Ohio, I think) just committed to Texas
Mack Brown is getting the recruits.
Florida and Texas have really raked it in this year.
OU still has one last offer to give, and I don’t think it’s been filled yet.
I'm a masochist
But even I do not want to set foot in BO Nation today. Rooting for the Whorns must be like rooting for Bill Gates to win the lottery.
by HoustonSooner on Jan 29, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Not according to recent reports
I read that his decommit was prematurely reported and he reportedly is solid w/ ATM.
It's spelled correctly
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
sure, if you have the education level of a 4th grade oklahoman…
by Displaced Longhorn on Jan 29, 2010 6:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's cool, take shots at 4th graders...
by SoonerDutch on Jan 30, 2010 2:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
When I was in 4th grade
I thought it was spelled “Fexas”
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
Wow...now you trolls have to resort to insulting a man's education
Here is the difference in a nutshell between a Sooner fan with pride in his school and education and a Whorn fan (who, more than likely, is a Matthew McConaughey T-shirt fan). A Sooner fan will stick to insulting the coaching staff and players of the University of Texas at Austin men’s intercollegiate football squad and the arrogant, insufferable fanbase of said football squad. A Whorn fan will insult the history of the state of Oklahoma (of which T-shirt fan or even the proud few who actually went to school in Austin have absolutely no understanding), the education received at the state’s premier educational institution, and will insult anybody who lives in the state of Oklahoma. The reason why, I think, Whorn refuses to confine the rivalry to actual football talk is simple. If you compare national championships, national championship game appearances, conference championships, Heisman trophy winners, etc. there is really no comparison. If you compare what OU manages to do with less talent and less resources than Mack Brown (who would be a used-car salesman if intercollegiate athletics did not exist in its present form) stockpiles year after year, there is no comparison….OU does more with less year after year after year.
by HoustonSooner on Jan 30, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
lol, says the man defending people who are arguing “Texas” is spelled “Texass” and “Fexas”….. of course I’m going to mock your educational system.
paper thin skin much?
by Displaced Longhorn on Jan 30, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
not defending misspelling
As long as it is intentional misspelling. And when you want to stop attacking the educational system and start talking football, I’ll be here, brother.
by HoustonSooner on Jan 30, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
question
So how is “texass” any different than “zero U” or any other play on OU/Oklahoma that I see from whorn fan? I would hope that you are intelligent enough to realize that “texass” has nothing to do w/ education as it does needling a rival opponent. Which based on your constant presence seems to be working quite nicely.
See....when a UT fan does it
it’s perfectly fine, and witty….‘cause they are perfect in every way. If an OU fan does it, it’s stupid, and childish, cause all Sooners are stupid and childish, and obviously have some kinda mental defect because we don’t immediately recognize the greatness, of all things Fexas….er…Texas.
Where we see a double standard and a pompous “south side of a north bound steer”, UT fans see their god born superiority…which they have to share with us low-lives, because we so easily forget that UT is naturally superior in all ways to all of creation.
Tuck ’em
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That's what I was trying to say
It’s the double standard that angers me sometimes. I think “Choklahoma”, “Jokelahoma”, and “Mobilehoma” is kind of funny…“Zero U” is kind of tired and cliche and borrowed from Pokey State canards or jackasses in the media like Randy Galloway but don’t really have a problem with it. It’s just that most of us, even when acting childish, try to confine our insults to the arrogance of the fanbase not a fan’s intelligence, attractiveness, and hygiene.
We Sooners have contributed a lot to the state of Texas and I’m proud of our contributions as well as the contributions of Texas-born Sooner grads all over the Lone Star State.
25-30% of OU’s freshmen classes year after year are from Texas….don’t hear Whorn fan complaining about us poaching star students.
by HoustonSooner on Jan 30, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
That's because
Star student is the equivalent of a foreign language to them. 7 pts on the Wonderlic is good right?
LOL!
Dude pull of the crimson colored glasses! Most OU fans in that state have never even stepped foot in Norman, That is the complete definition of t-shirt fan. Also with that being said lets compare probations, violations and vacating of victories. Thats why we can make fun of the state and its history. It leaks into the school as in its own history.
Lets also compare
The number of head-to-head victories for Texas and OU. Seems to me that in an argument between schools, the championships arguments are indirect variables. Sure they have an effect, but the overriding direct variable between Texas and OU is head-to-head victories. And its quite delicious.
Yeah. I'm a Texas fan too.
All we care about is beating OU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! National championships are obviously worthless because OU has more of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s why we rarely play in them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also why we lost to Alabama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by SoonerDutch on Jan 31, 2010 10:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hey you got them!
Again I will say this again. 5 of those National Titles were either during probation and couldnt play in a bowl or was immediately followed by probation. Heck read Brian Bosworths book. He tells all about it. I do not blame you on ignoring that fact but you know as well as I do that the paying of players is what led to those titles. Sooner fans should thank their lucky stars that SMU got the death penalty when it did or it would have been OU that would have gotten it and we all know how long it has taken them to get to a bowl game. The history of OU football is just as tainted as Miami’s!
Again as a Texas fan I couldn't agree more!
I am so glad to be a fan of a school that has never been put on probation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess I’m not the only one who correctly believes that OU has 2 National Championships, despite what the NCAA says!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m also so happy our fan base doesn’t make joke arguments over and over again to compensate for our lack of football acomplishments when compared with our rival school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Texas Fight!!!!!!!!!!
by SoonerDutch on Feb 1, 2010 2:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I never said 2
I said do not put your program on a pedestal like they wrote the book on success when every time you turn around it is wrapped up in scandal. Truth known if the NCAA would pay more attention they would look at the casino on the west side of 35, the mile of cars in Edmond and Fiesta Toyota in Lawton. They would see alot more mishandling of OU athletics. They would look at the dr’s and pharmacies throughout Norman that give these guys prescriptions that turn around and sell them to the student body. Last and def not least they would look at a sr athletic tuitor that goes and takes test for the students. Those are just things I know of. Probation yes Texas has been there, 25-30 yrs ago. There hasnt been a sniff of scandel on that football team since then.
I'd point out
that if the NCAA went and looked at every campus, including UT’s they would find similar stuff.
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
Have they found it?
Do you truelly think that the NCAA doesnt look at all schools? Let me guess the NCAA just picks on OU, Bama, Miami and Florida St!
NOT what I'm saying
I’m saying stuff happens on all campuses. If you went to UT, I’m sure you would have stories. IF you went to Utah St, I’m sure you would have stories.
your point is “Oklahoma is a dirty bunch of cheaters, and my school is squeaky clean, and so god like, that even Tim Tebow would have to go through ritialized bath if he wanted to play there” is both a slam to OU that is not fully true, and blind to your own reality.
Again, I’m not sure why the F any UT fan comes here. We get it….we really do….UT is great and perfect in every way. In fact if the rapture happens tomorrow, it would possibly be only those wearing burnt orange, that would go to heaven, and OU is the suckiest buch of sucks that ever sucked.
Please….none of that is true. I’m going to be a fan of OU and proud of the university, through wins, and losses, in every sport, and I’d like you to please allow me that. If you were a true fan, of any college you wouldn’t want or ask any less of any fan, and should respect Me and OU for that.
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
mad respect to you for being proud of OU
by Displaced Longhorn on Feb 1, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
your point is?
that one kid over 20 years ago, made some bad decisions, and ended up in jail?
Again, why sling crap, when we can print a list of the “book em horns” issues going on just this year? Do you really think you are superior? Do you really think that UT has not and never had any kids make mistakes? And if you do…….I really would love to find out your secret on delusion…it would make life a lot easier.
Wow..you are right…f it….I’m a UT FAN! Thanks for showing me the light!
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
you asked for it
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
Wow! We didn't start the fire...it was always burning since the world's been turning!
Charles Whitman v. Charles Thompson blasts…At least Thompson eventually turned his life around.
by HoustonSooner on Feb 1, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
And Whitman was a Texas football player… oh wait, he wasn’t.
by Displaced Longhorn on Feb 1, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
He was a UT student
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
wow, you learn something every day. i never knew that. ever. up until you pointed it out.
please explain this incident’s relevancy to our topic at hand of a dirty program earning national titles closely joined by probation and massive violations?
by Displaced Longhorn on Feb 1, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
since you asked
It shows that a kid/student at a university can make a mistake.
If you choose to think that makes said University, it’s fans, or athletic problems responsible and thus guilty of his actions you are wrong. UT is not responsible for Whitman’s actions, nor is OU responsible for Thompson’s actions.
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
Really!
Charles Thompson ws a punk at Lawton High and he was a punk at OU. Now yes I understand that you do expect a kid to grow up at some point but the athletic staff couldnt say they didnt have some idea he was doing something. The university’s athletic boosters are the one’s that do dirty things thus making the university liable. When one of Mack’s kids go off the reservation gets drunk and gets charged with tresspassing it is his responsiblity to control his kids and program. When Bomar got caught at Big Red Sports and Imports it is the fault of the athletic department and its staff for not knowing what is going on. Now before you attack me on my Stoops comment I truelly think that he did the right thing by kicking everyone involved off the team.
Whitman Wasn't But These Guys Were
Are we to assume that Mack Brown has no clue as to the amounts of drugs being passed around in the Texas locker room as well as the weapons, burglary and drunk driving? You can stop the holier than thou act now.
By the way, Texas was last on probation in 1988 and 1989. They were cheating right there alongside OU. The only difference is that OU was actually able to win championships and Texas couldn’t even when they were cheating.
I am not claiming the holier than thou.
Your correct got put on probation for the 88 and 89 season. Recruiting was cut to 20 each season and was bowl eligible. If he doesnt have a clue of who is doing it than he should be fired. How many of they players that “voluntarily transfered” he didnt just kick off and was kept quiet. I admit that sometimes they slip buy but there is no way the athletic department cant tell me something isnt wrong when a college sophmore has a jeep and a vette at the dorm and they have no clue. Please tell me you dont think that.
Cheating Is Cheating
That’s why you shouldn’t knock another school for their past – and their present for that matter – because your own school is going to have some junk in the closet as well.
I have had the pleasure of knowing (yes, I do mean pleasure because these are great people who do a noble thing) some people who’ve tutored Texas athletes and outside of the drugs, guns and breaking and entering that we all know about there are a few other things that are swept under the rug there as well.
Yes, it really does happen at every school.
That isnt not what I am saying.
Im sure there have been a few “handshakes” between boosters and players at Texas. Texas also has a problem keeping their kids out of bars lately. What I am saying is do not put OU on a pedistol when thru out their history they have been busted immediately following a MNC. Also the fact that 2 of those titles came in yrs OU wasnt even eligible to play in a bowl def taints those titles. How many times have we seen a #1 team lose a bowl game and not win a MNC. Yes I can tell you the yrs Texas was put on probation. 62 & 87. So if you want to claim OU’s titles which I do not blame you. I only ask that you claim their violations and admit that OU is to be mentioned in the same breath as Bama and Miami as the dirtiest programs in the country and that their 5 of the MNC’s are tainted. Yes i do respect you for your never ending support. With that being said dont disrespect the fact that I will walk into any bar in OK or get on any web-site and say exactly what I feel and how I feel it.
got it
OU sucks and UT is perfect. Got it. now you can go away.
would it make you feel better if I said, you are correct. OU Sucks, UT is great, and spotless. Hell, I’m a UT fan now!….You have shown me the light!
I really don’t know what you want to do or prove here. What ever it is, I’d give it to you if you would shut up and go away.
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
Check out the UT and OU all-garbage teams
Barking Carnival did an OU all-garbage team and Tilting at Windmills did an UT all-garbage team and an objective analysis will find that there is a truth in all of this. A lot of the players we root on are jerks…Some are legitimately good human beings like Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford.
A lot of jocks are jerks, and UT has more than their fair share.
Let’s also compare the Academic BCS rankings in 2007 and 2008 published by the New America Foundation.
As for the probations, it’s pretty well known in NCAA rules infraction circles that certain schools are more difficult to go after than others. Why hasn’t USC been disciplined for the Reggie Bush and Dwayne Jarrett situations, much less the Joe McKnight situation (and more to come)? Part of it is that USC is a private school, but part of it is that Mike Garrett the AD at USC is not very forthcoming with NCAA investigators.
Why hasn’t UT been busted as many times over the years as OU has? I don’t know. Topic for another day that might take days and days to explain. Is it because the UT football program is cleaner than the pure-driven snow? Or because the UT administration is less forthcoming? It’s no coincidence that the Bomar-Quinn/Big Red Sports scandal was self-reported by OU to the NCAA and OU didn’t wait for the NCAA before booting Bomar and Quinn from the team. It’s no concidence that an OU Law Center Prof (and ex-dean and interim president of the university) was head of the NCAA Rules Infraction Committee for many years. He wanted to prove that he was beyond reproach and happened to have a lot of integrity. He was the one who forced Switzer to resign when he was interim president and forced a lot of the issues out into the open that led to the probation of 1989. So, that’s why OU didn’t receive the death penalty unlike SMU…OU was forthcoming and took responsibility for the bad things going on down at Wilkinson Dorm.
by HoustonSooner on Feb 1, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
What?
Your telling me that OU and its administration didn’t know what was going on for years in its own dorm? Go talk to a fool cause everyone in the state knew. Heck I remember when The Bomar scandal broke. I didn’t even hear on the ticker who it was and knew it was Big Red Sports. Don’t give me this crap that OU comes forth and what not. They come out when it is reported or has the up and up it is going to be reported. Was the university sorry that they did it or was it because they got caught? It’s like a man cheating on his wife. The only time he is sorry is when he gets caught! When a driver is busted for being drunk he is sorry for driving he is sorry because he has to pay thousands in court cost, fines and legal fees. Watch that deal on the Univ of Miami. They had no remorse for everything that went on down there. To this day they don’t care. The only reason remorse is shown is because they are trying to avoid extremely harsh penalties!
Agree on Miami
But like USC, Miami is a private school and feels less of a need to be forthcoming with FOIA requests than does a state school. I remember too how the Bomar scandal broke.
It was just a rumor on an Aggie or Husker message board (can’t remember which) and OU actually investigated the rumor and took it seriously (let’s see your precious UT do that) and self-reported the violation and threw Bomar and Quinn off the team unilateraly without any prompting from the NCAA.
Yes, I remember that really well.
by HoustonSooner on Feb 3, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Actually bro
Texas was on probation in the late 80’s. But regardless I could care less if you think we cheat. Until you become head of the NCAA, which considering your spelling probably isn’t going to happen, your opinion is worthless to me. If the NCAA placed greater scrutiny on UT, do you honestly think nothing would come up?
This is the first time I’ve seen any “fan” of college football embrace the sanctity of the NCAA rulebook.
And before you reply to this with your usual nonsense garbage, think for a second. Repeating the same arguement over and over is childish. I get it, you think OU cheats. The only reason they win is because they cheat. Ok. Just unplug the monitor and please stop, stop, stop hurting America.
by SoonerDutch on Feb 1, 2010 11:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
OK! Ill stop!
I ask you to actually walk on your campus and pay attention to whats going on and not turn away from it. Just know that I actually have more access to the OU athletes than I do the Texas athletes. Ive hung out with them. Ive listened to them brag and talk about it. Now with that being said 1 of the best people I have ever met is Vince Carter what he does in OK with FCA is very noble and his commitment is strong! Antonio Perkins does a great job with the American Red Cross. Jamal does alot of great things in New Orleans that yall dont know about. Now before you come back with something about my credibility and what not realize you dont know squat. You dont know who I know and how I know them. My knowledge of what goes on up there is 2nd to none. Also just to let you know. Your new TE has baggage!
Does he drive into buildings?
Because if that’s so, we’ve got a major problem…
by SoonerDutch on Feb 2, 2010 1:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yay baseless accusations!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Texas Fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hook Em!!!!!!!!!
by SoonerDutch on Feb 1, 2010 11:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
that was a question for soonerdutch, primarily because he’s acting like a 5 year old.
by Displaced Longhorn on Feb 1, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I've found outrageous displays of sarcasm to be a useful tool when dealing with idiots.
Which describes these other UT posters. You at least seem semi-competent. Please don’t disappoint.
Admit it though, for at least a second, you thought I was a Texas fan…
by SoonerDutch on Feb 1, 2010 11:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Compare the head to head series...
since World War II, when the University of Oklahoma spurned on by the insults of Okies in John Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath decided to invest money to become competitive in football which allowed them to go out and hire Tatum and then Wilkinson. I think you’ll find it’s not as delicious.
by HoustonSooner on Feb 1, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Heck it's not delicious
even as the whole series. Looks to me like a great rivalry that is pretty evenly split between two quality programs. (something no UT fan would ever admit to…that OU is a quality program and a worthy foe).
"You have been banned from the Purple Row, for Inappropriate conduct, profanity, (&) telling site authors their articles are crap."
Do a poll of UT fans
And you’ll find they consider their main rival A&M and not OU..they pine for the SWC days…Hell, there’s even a even a SWC nostalgia show broadcast here in Houston by the Game (the same station that broadcasts Sooner games). I imagine about 70% consider A&M their true rival.
Hell, I don’t have to ask a rhetorical question, because I’m sure UT fans will be happy to opine.
by HoustonSooner on Feb 1, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Imagine how many conference titles they would have won if the SWC still existed!
by HoustonSooner on Feb 1, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
I would definitely admit
That OU is a quality program and a worthy foe. That’s what makes the rivalry so great between OU and Texas. The consistent national programs that both have. I have great amounts of respect for OU and its program, and desire for the program to be near the top of its capability so that Texas has a top notch (and hopefully top 10) opponent/game every year.
I can still remember walking into the cotton bowl in 2005, still going back and forth in my head seeing scenarios where we could win, and OU could win. It’s a great rivalry, and my favorite.
I think you are very ill-misinformed about the Horns’ main rival. Seeing as I live in Texas, and went to Texas, I can ASSURE YOU that most fans consider OU the main rival, and A&M a joke. No one wants to beat A&M more than they want to beat OU. That is just as ignorant as me saying “…most OU fans consider Okie Lite to be their main rival…they pine for the old Big 8 days…” don’t discredit yourself with silly ignorant statements.
And the SWC nostalgia show I imagine is broadcast because it covers almost all the local sports teams, and it uses the SWC name to represent that. If you just put a little thought into it…
Houston & Rice – local teams
Texas & A&M – premier state schools
Tech & Baylor – some pull
TCU & SMU – even less pull
not hard to see why a Houston station would broadcast a SWC nostalgia show. Also, because a station in Houston broadcasts this show, this means Texas really wishes it were still in the SWC? Nice logic.
Of course you guys believe OU is a worthy rival
Otherwise you wouldn’t be hanging out with us on an OU message board otherwise (and we’re happy to have you…most of the time). But I’ve heard this discussed on Longhorn message boards. Most of the North Texas and West Texas UT-Austin grads considered OU the main rival considering that they have a high liklihood of working with an OU alumnus and losing in the Cotton Bowl may make it less fun to come to work on an October Monday. Most of the Central, South, and SouthEast UT grads unless they work in the energy industry don’t really hang out with us Sooners. Most of these guys consider A&M the rival despite their recent woes and consider it worse to show up to work Monday morning after Thanksgiving after a loss to A&M.
As for my statement that UT pines for the SWC, maybe I’m generalizing certain UT fans statements a little too much..because UT would be nuts to leave the Big XII right now where it is the alpha male dog right now in revenues and in money pumped into the athletic program and by any objective measure (with OU in 2nd).
But you might be shocked how many Longhorn fans on the boards discuss seriously the possibility of taking Missouri and A&M with them and joining the Big X (XI really) or trying to get OU to join the North and taking TCU in its place if Missouri bolts.
If you want to dismiss your fellow fans as crackpots, fine….I’ll derive a lot of satisfaction from that. I think a lot more UT-Austin fans pine for the old Texas-Arkansas SWC days than you would care to admit. And it would be a lot easier burnt orange brick road to national championship glory in the old SWC.
And yes a lot of OU fans do pine for the Old Big 8 days. We gave up our traditional rival Nebraska when we joined. But in the end analysis, despite the fact we’re not making as much a you all are, we’re still making more money than we would have made in the Big 8.
by HoustonSooner on Feb 3, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
Whoa...
And you’ll find they consider their main rival A&M and not OU
I’m sorry, but this is a fantastically ignorant comment. I went to Texas. There’s no question that OU is considered our main rival. What in the world are you talking about.
by TheElusiveShadow on Feb 3, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Is it just me,
but I thought this thread was about recruiting and not the education systems in Oklahoma and Texas. “Losing” Jeffcoat to Texas hurts now, but I seriously doubt the kid will be the world beater everybody claims he’ll be. Jeffcoat played against my son’s high school team this past season (a game attended by Stoops and at least on Texas recruiter) and was a non-factor the entire game. Because of his name, he’s been the BMOC at Plano West for the past several seasons, and all that is about to change for him. Sure, the kid can play, but I feel he gets more love than he’s due because of his dad and name recognition.
Yes there is a chance that he could be a bust.
Witht that being said I also watched him play and what I saw was constant double and triple teams and running away from him. The kid is a player. Period. Now yes he did get alot of pub for being a legacy fb player. That also meens that his tech and drive is well ahead of the game.
lol yes, he’s considered one of the best kids in the country because of his dad’s name…
by Displaced Longhorn on Feb 1, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
That's the only reason Texas wanted him
is because of his name. OU saw something in him, and then when he didn’t commit, they realized that he was all just a name. Darn! Wish the Texas coaches would have been so smart!!!
Yeah his strength, speed, and lateral agility is too good for us.
We like slow, injury prone guys, who miss a lot of tackles. Obviously I was relieved when he committed to Texas.
by SoonerDutch on Feb 1, 2010 11:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Still doesn't make me happy losing Jeffcoat
Although Darius White is the bigger loss
by HoustonSooner on Feb 3, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
If that were the only case
We would have stolen Dylan Favre and Nick Montana.
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
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