Mangino Gets The Axe At Kansas For Not Being Sensitive
by ccmachine on Dec 3, 2009 11:00 PM CST
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PrintWho would have thought that Colorado coach Dan Hawkins would be retained and Kansas coach Mark Mangino would be shown the door. It kind of seems backwards doesn't it? We've neutered football so much where the quarterback has to be sacked a certain way, a receiver has the right not to be hit too hard by a defender while trying to catch a pass and the coach can't talk mean to his players. What is the world coming to?
Who cares if Mark Mangino was rude and insensitive to his players! It's not his job to coddle them or be sensitive to their feelings. He's their football coach, not their mother. He's supposed to be harder on them than anyone ever has...ever. He's supposed to push them to the brink of quitting and giving up by testing their physical, emotional and mental limits. That's what turns young boys into young men!
"Some players will be happy to see him go and others will be sad to see him go," defensive back Justin Thornton said. "He did a lot of good for a lot of people here."
The Kansas football team was soft. When they were punched in the mouth (football speak) they backed down. Mangino knew that about his team and so did many of the fans but it appears that school wasn't willing to back his ability to change that. Instead of hard and mean they want soft and sensitive. Perhaps they should scour the local YMCA's and McDonald's play places for a coach. The YMCA will allow you to find a coach who will always be encouraging and positive no matter how many failures the player may have and the McDonalds will allow you to find enough mommys to make sure all the players have someone to hold their hands crossing the street, wipe their noses and tell the coach to shhhhhhhh if he starts talking too loudly.
Mark Mangino took the Kansas football program to new highs in 2007 with a one loss season and an Orange Bowl victory. He followed it up last year with a victory in the Insight Bowl for an unheard of back-to-back bowl wins. Now the university administration has taken the program back to new depths by letting athletes hurt feelings run the athletic department. Good luck with that coaching search!
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to coach what?
Wilson leaving? Asst’s leaving? I haven’t heard of anything along that line. If for some reason Coach Stoops makes some changes we should be going for new blood and ideas not old stuff.
I would assume Offensive Cordinator
Long was reported on campus this week visiting with Stoops. Stoops and Long are reportedly good friends. It could be just a friendly get together.
This is the most absurd commentary I've ever read.
I hope you’re ill-informed about what Mangino did to some of these kids, and not knowingly approving of his activities.
“He’s supposed to push them to the brink of quitting and giving up by testing their physical, emotional and mental limits. "
Really? Racial slurs and 2nd degree burns are somehow a part of testing physical and emotional limits? Telling black athletes that they would be sent back to the ghetto to be shot like their siblings (DAYS after their siblings were shot no less) for missing tackles is somehow acceptable behavior for the teacher of young men? What kind of a message does that send to the black students on the team? What about the black students at KU? Or in the rest Kansas? This is not the behavior of a rational, emotionally balanced adult male — I wouldn’t want this man within miles of my children (if his waistband would even allow such a thing).
Effective coaches (and leaders) instill strength in their disciples without having to resort to belittling and insulting them. Racial slurs in society are not to be tolerated. Indeed, far more successful D1 programs manage to coach and train successful athletes without resorting to name calling and physical abuse — these things are canonically NOT necessary for preparing a football team for competition. The Marine Corps long ago did away with hostile and bigoted language in their training programs — but I suppose they’re just preparing young men to go to battle — what the eff do they know? Mangino, he’s got a FOOTBALL TEAM to run — he can say and do whatever he wants.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 4, 2009 6:23 AM CST reply actions
This took me literally five minutes:
“Two former players, meanwhile, confirmed a Rivals.com report that during a practice confrontation with former receiver Raymond Brown, whose brother had recently been shot and hospitalized, Mangino told the player, "Don’t yes sir me, or I will send you back to St. Louis so you can get shot with your homies."
“In some instances, former receiver Dexton Fields said, assistant coaches would take it upon themselves to cuss players out in an effort to "keep the big man off of our backs,"”
“Fields also said that outgoing players left having developed no real relationship with the coach.”
Definitely the hallmark of a good leader is retaining no relationship with former players. Clearly.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 4, 2009 6:33 AM CST up reply actions
There is a line
about being tough, and being abusive. From what I can tell Mangino crossed that line. Was it egregiously over the line? I don’t think so, but it’s not something I’d want out of my head coach just the same.
Everyone says Bob Knight was super-tough on his players…but they (most not all) knew he was on their side even when he was being super-tough. Mangino doesn’t come across that way.
Does any one know....
….if all this is really true. Maybe everyone should consider if any of these players have an axe to grind against coach Mangino.
Even assuming that were true,
That so many of his players have an axe to grind, as you put it, is an indictment of ineffective leadership at best, and maliciousness at worst.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 5, 2009 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
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