Agonizing, Awful Game
Edited for a correction to the "two more losses" section. Should have read the "9th worst season" rather than "7th worst".
Before we get into the game, there's something to hammer out. Andre "Prophet of Doom" Ware was right. He predicted the Sooners would be 8-4 this year. Actually, it could easily wind up being worse than what Dr. Ware predicted. So here's a summary of the different benchmarks we're playing for this year (including a bowl game):
- Win Out: We finish a respectable 9-4. The four losses will equal the worst mark since the 2005 season, and the winning percentage will qualify as Stoops' third worst season at OU. The four losses will be a mark that was only equaled by 11 Sooner teams in the last 30 years. However, we will finish with a bowl victory for the first time in 4 years as well.
- One More Loss: We finish at 8-5. Five losses would equal the worst mark in Stoops' tenure, or since 1999. It would be the second worst winning percentage of any Stoops coached team. It would rank as the 14th worst winning percentage of any Sooners team since 1946. If the one loss isn't in a bowl game, we would manage to win our first bowl game in 4 years. Otherwise, we would be stuck with four consecutive bowl defeats.
- Two More Losses: We finish at 7-6. Six losses would make this Stoops' worst season in Norman. Even if the loss was in the bowl game (regular season record of 6-6), we would still be bowl eligible for the 11th straight season. I doubt we would get turned down by a bowl game if we had 6 wins, given our history and fan base. The 0.538 winning percentage would be the worst since 1998, or the end of the Blake Era. It would also mark the 9th worst season since 1946, and the 22nd worst season since 1896.
- Three More Losses To Close The Season: We finish at 5-7. Again, this would be the worst season for Stoops at OU. We would miss being bowl eligible for the first time since 1998. The 0.416 winning percentage would be the worst since 1997. It would also mark the 5th worst season since 1946, and the 9th worst season since 1896. It would be an abysmal blemish on the long record of success the Sooners football program has had.
It's really difficult to find a place to start breaking down this game. It was atrocious in just about every way possible. Let's start with the defense, though, that played admirably. For everyone getting on Brent Venables' case last season, he sure has game planned well this season. It seems like in all four losses, you can't blame the loss on the defense (or at least the defense deserves a very small share of the blame). The one touchdown they gave up was following a return of a Landry Jones interception down close to the goal line.
Landry Jones came crashing back down to earth. He threw 5 interceptions, which was a school record. The Sooners had a slim chance at the end of the game that ended when Jones threw a "hail mary" pass that didn't need to be a hail mary pass. I'd hate to say it, but a big share of the loss falls on his shoulders. The Sooner offense out gained the Husker offense by about 180 percent (325-180). The Sooners converted 5 third downs, and the Huskers only converted 1. Nebraska even accumulated 40 more penalty yards than OU!
The only major difference was that the Sooners were -4 in the turnover department. And all of their turnovers were interceptions at the hands of Landry Jones. Landry seemed to underthrow the short passes. They got tipped often, or barely got to their receivers. These "forward lateral passes" are often telegraphed. There's no deception and the defense can often read them like a book. On the deep passes, or even intermediate slant/post routes, Landry frequently threw the ball about 2-4 yards behind the receiver and a good 2 yards high.
He only completed 40 percent of his passes and it was really the first time that he looked like a freshman out there.
Some of the play calls continued to baffle me. I don't understand on a critical 4th down and 1 how they could do a toss play to Murray while only having Kenney out ahead of him to block. Not surprisingly, Murray was tackled for a loss with about 3 Nebraska players bearing down on him.
On the "hail mary" play in question, part of it was Landry's fault. However, all of the routes called on that play were deep routes. Three of the four receivers were running go routes, and they appeared to be "timing" routes set for about 15-20 yards down field so the QB can hit the receiver in the seam. The only player running a shorter route was Broyles who was running a 15-20 yard down-and-out sideline pattern, a difficult and long throw (and he was well covered). In a way, I think the play call set the final drive up to fail.
Kevin Wilson may have had a good season last year, but 2008 does not equal 2009. I think he fell in love with everything he could do with a much more talented offense in '08, and he is trying to make mediocre play calls work again with this group. And, at some point, you have to start questioning the no-huddle offense. When Sam ran it, the offense just seemed to click. When Landry runs it, there seems to be frequent hiccups. You even notice some difference in its effectiveness between this offensive line and last year's.
But all of that aside, I think it's time for these Sooner players and coaches to realize what they're on the brink of doing and start to play with a fire. Right now, it really looks like they could care less. We have a winnable game next week against Texas A&M, although they've shown they can cause problems. However, we follow that up with two very loseable regular season games - on the road against Texas Tech, and at home against Oklahoma State. Obviously, we've had problems on the road this year, and we typically have problems at Tech no matter what. Bedlam will be interesting as Oklahoma State is probably the better team right now, but they will be playing in Norman. Follow that up with a bowl game (if we qualify) against a quality opponent.
Just two more losses and this will be one of the worst teams in OU's storied history, especially in the modern era. To think, it began with the team being ranked at #3 in the country. Wake up Sooners! You guys have talent. Start playing like it, unless you'd really like to go down in the record books like that.
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this year has really wore me out on Wilson.
OU’s offense from last year was an aberration with a great O-line and an awesome backfield with great receivers. Points galore, but remember when the system broke down in the NC game? I do. Which leads me to believe that Wilson’s system will only work with an offense that has top quality players at all positions all the time. Change one thing in that group and it won’t work. I hope no one ever confuses the Wilson no-huddle with a hurry-up offense. This year Wilson has not been able to adapt and make in game corrections against quality opponents. In fact two games last year he was unable to adapt as well.
This year I have read several Wilson quotes and it makes me wonder why he is coaching the offense at OU. The quote from the BYU halftime, ‘come on guy,. lets go’. What kind of candy ass non-motivational stuff is that? After the loss to UT he made several statements about his calls and almost all othem were about his being predictable but Wilson himself thought he was being deceptive(only in his own mind).
The players themselves may be part of this, but the press conferences lead me to believe it is not all on the players themselves. Wilson’s reason for some guys not starting or playing, ‘they didn’t practice well’. Memo to Wilson: If the people you have in are screwing up,,,, bench their butt. Find out who wants to lay in the game and put them in there. Wilson…. that is your job!
In closing, it is very very close to asking or telling Wilson to move on.
by scarab on Nov 8, 2009 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And, at some point, you have to start questioning the no-huddle offense. When Sam ran it, the offense just seemed to click. When Landry runs it, there seems to be frequent hiccups. You even notice some difference in its effectiveness between this offensive line and last year’s.
Bingo. I have been saying that to my friends and others I am watching the game with. To bring in a basketball analogy…Sam is the perfect PG to run the fast break on grass. He knew when and where to get the ball to and at what times. Landry on the other hand, isn’t as good of a PG as Sam and when that happens on a basketball team, you change up the game plan to better suit the talent that you have.
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by Jubanator14 on Nov 8, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly just because of the matchups I don't see two more losses.
A&M is a win, Tech is just as inconsistent as we are, and considering Oklahoma State scored 14 on their home field against a comparable defense to our own. Granted I also thought we had the advantage against Nebraska.
I take offense when you say the whole team doesn’t care because the defense “shut out” a division 1 opponent on their home field. Granted it was a high school team but put it into perspective, it was just one really, really bad game by the offense.
by SoonerDutch on Nov 9, 2009 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OU
will beat A&M and Okie State. A&M isn’t that good and you get Okie State at home. The Cowboys have found, better yet, searched for a way to lose every big game they have ever been in. Plus, it is at Norman. What is it 2 loses in 10 years or something, very impressive and don’t think the Cowboys don’t know that. I live here in OKC and went to the game in Lincoln, I am not a football guru, but from the stands it just looked like the Huskers wanted it more than the Sooners. I also went the the ISU and NU game and the Cyclones looked like they wanted that game more than the Huskers, very similar looking game to Saturday I thought. The only game in doubt is Texas Tech and with OU’s defense they have a great shot at winning that game.
by Huzkerfan on Nov 9, 2009 8:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't count out the Aggies
Their defense is horrible but they actually have a decent above average offense. They will probably be the best running team we have seen the whole year and they have a very good quarterback in Jerrod Johnson and a nice staple of backs. Their defense is a joke, but they have an excellent pass rusher in Von Miller who leads the nation in sacks or is close to it. Other than that they have nobody.
In regards to Oklahoma State, they are a very good team and have a great shot at beating us. Even though they got blown out by Texas their defense did a good job against Texas and only gave up 27 points as Texas had two pick sixes.
There was a firefight!!!!
by ThePhenomenon on Nov 10, 2009 2:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
OU may.....
be wounded but I think they will fight like crazy to defend the home turf. I don’t see A&M getting many points against that defense or Okie State for that matter. I think your offense will put up at least 21 to 31 points against either of those defenses. Landry won’t throw five picks again and Broyles is bound to bust some things loose on special teams, given all the punts that the defense will give you.
by Huzkerfan on Nov 12, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I almost don't care what they do Saturday
really.
by scarab on Nov 12, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After the recent seson ending injuries to Eldridge and English
can I change my vote?
by scarab on Nov 10, 2009 7:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
I see one more loss. I think Okie Lite beats you guys. But however OU does over these three games, I wouldn’t ink in the bowl victory just yet. I think that hinges a lot on healing up on the long list of non-season-ending injuries and catching up a little on the scheme-indoctrination issues that have been neglected in the week-to-week practices.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 11, 2009 1:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I am sick of the scheme/system thing. It only works if you have the right athletes, everyone remains healthy, and some luck. This years personnel cannot get it at all. Doesn’t make them bad guys, just can’t play well in that system scheme.
by scarab on Nov 11, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To elaborate further
I think that some of these guys COULD play in the scheme, but many of them, particularly the youngsters who have been thrust into action, have ended up in situations for which they just weren’t prepared. That is, they could eventually have enough experience to successfully start and execute the scheme, but they don’t have anywhere enough yet. They’re probably spending a little more time with opponent-specific prep than going through the growing pains of indoctrination and fundamentals, and that’s a failure IMO. Obviously Good and Jones have the talent to play much better than they did in the first nine games of the season, but really, they’re completely unprepared. I think the coaches are going to play a little catch-up in the bowl practices, or at least they should.
Bob Stoops knows a helluva lot more about coaching football players than I ever will, but I do think he’s done a poor job of setting his youngsters up for success this season. He knew coming into 2009 that he had lost five of his six top linemen, and he knew the guys he had to prepare. He just plain didn’t do it the right way. I’m 100% convinced that he forgot that they were as green as they were, and instead approached their training the same way he’d done when Robinson, Loadholt, Braxton, etc. were there. That’s like expecting fifth-graders to learn concepts the same way as high-schoolers, IMO. It doesn’t make the young linemen dumb or incapable, so much as illustrate that they have to establish fundamentals and other foundation skills before moving on to the fineries of their positions.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 11, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1, you get it
thanks, it a coaching approach. Like I said earlier, it takes what I mentioned AND the players playing the same position all year long. Playing musical chairs with players and positions is a recipe for failure. The team would have been better served by putting in green underclassmen and having them get experience and learn a position. Next years line is going to come in handicapped because of the musical chair approach. Offensive line is position specific. Not at all like NT, DG, or DT.
The coaches are purely to blame in not have a good tight end, which in all of football CFB and PRO is a very integral part of any scheme. I am no coach, whatever, but I can recognize a few things.
Best to UT, make sure you STOMP the living daylights out of UF, Tboo and friends.
by scarab on Nov 11, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Tebag might as well be carrion
Thanks for the well-wishes. Glad I could be involved in some civil discussion here.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 12, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you have nobody else to blame but your caoch
your coach ran your team until it was out of steam trying to get to the ncg last year.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 12, 2009 1:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Give Landry a break
The kid is a redshirt freshman. Not a 5th year senior. He throws 5 TD’s one game, your ready to put him on Mt.Olympus. He throws 5 INT’s, your ready to put him under King Tut’s tomb. Let this kid gain some experience. Get him some receivers he can trust besides Broyles, and a offensive line that’s healthy that can protect him. Then pass judgement next season if he screws up.
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by ctu24 on Nov 12, 2009 9:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've given him a break,
it is the system that I can’t. Look at the past 3 years running this system. Scores a lot of points if everything, and I mean everything is right. Can run worth a damn, but sling a pass was easy until this year. and Still can’t run worth a damn. Adds up to 4 losses maybe more.
Change the system or make darn sure you have the personnel to run that crap that’s in Wilson’s mind.
by scarab on Nov 12, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs












