Sooners, an outside view
by BSU81 on Nov 22, 2009 11:40 PM CST
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It is with fear and trepidation that I dare to write in this forum. You see I graduated from Boise State University and attended the Fiesta Bowl. That alone should draw your ire. Yet, here I am with something to say to the Sooners.
As a fan of an emerging team, I can recognize and admire success in others. To win year in and year out is not the product of money, facilities, or even talent -- though I will freely admit such things help. Winning programs have that something extra often referred to as "strength of character". Easily seen in the long string of victories, but in truth forged in the battles that are lost.
I lay no claim to being a fan of the Sooners. While my great grandfather, a cowboy out of Texas, did race to some land after the boom, the Great Depression and a plague of chinch bugs pushed our family further west, ultimately to Idaho.
It is no miracle that I was aware of the Sooners football program. What football fan in America is not? However, I learned to admire them in the weeks leading up to the Fiesta Bowl. It takes integrity to build up from a seemingly lost season with a jury-rigged quarterback and a lost running back. Yet, there you were with a winning season and a freshly returned Adrian Peterson. As we settled into our seats, we met many a wonderful Sooner fan. A class act all the way. We all knew Adrian wasn't back to full strength, but when he switched gears to zip into the endzone for the last Oklahoma touchdown, we knew we had just seen greatness. Indeed, we still talk of that play in tones of awe as we watch him play on Sundays.
So why am I writing? Well it is no secret that the Sooners have had better years. It can't be if I know about it in rural Idaho. What I find absolutely facinating is that by one of the strangest twists in fate, the Sooners will be the ones to decide who gets the last BCS slot this year. This Saturday, playing the rival Cowboys, they get to decide who goes to the big dance! Which hated enemy goes? Is blood thicker than water? Will they favor the home state team over the upstart Idahoans? Or will they stick it to the Cowboys so they can say their loss to the Broncos was no fluke? The field of available teams has slowly dwindled and now most discussions revolve around OSU and BSU.
To make matters even more complex is the home field record. Oklahoma, I believe currently has the record for the longest string of home field victories. Am I right, that their last home loss was to the Cowboys? To preserve the integrity of this record, they must win this Saturday. If they lose, the title goes to the next in line. By a cruel twist of fate, that team appears to be the Boise State Broncos.
Yet, here is the thing. Strength of Character. As fans, we look at all these things, but there is something about the joy of playing and watching great football that transcends such arguments, whether it is a pick-up game in the back yard with the kids after dinner or in front of a packed house at Memorial Stadium this Saturday. I am not a betting man, but if I were, I would wager that the Sooner coaches and players are busy studying game tapes, they are practicing hard, and will play as hard as they can, as long as they can with whatever weapons they can field. They are the Sooners, the best is all they have.
Who will win? Who knows? I certainly don't normally have any predictive powers.
But I will predict one thing. This game will be watched with great interest throughout America, but especially in Idaho.
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Nice artwork.
Okay, I guess I’m not welcome. Still, all the best to the Sooners.
You are most certainly welcome here
You’ll just have to forgive some of the distain towards a program that made history at our expense. Obviously there are some OU fans who still aren’t over it.
Good write up though and I can promise you that no one will be wanting the Sooners to lose this Saturday in order to keep Boise State out of anything. We want victory over the Cowboys in a bad, bad way.
One more thing
I accept that people wouldn’t like to hear from me, not sure I would either if the situation was reversed. I just saw something interesting and though that Sooner fans would be interested in knowing that they were still a factor.
After a friend of mine was feeling really bad after a nasty divorce, my dad had a chat with him. He told my buddy “to never confuse what happens to you with who you are.” I never forgot that and I think it applies here. A lot of really bad things have happened to Oklahoma’s football program this year. No program is immune to these kind of things. Especially the ones out of their control. Just don’t let them define who you are. I doubt it has been said very often in Oklahoma — but until next year!
I have to admit
That ASCII art is hilarious…haven’t seen anything that good in quite a while. Do you keep that one saved for just this sort of occasion?? :-D
Time Heals All Wounds?
I’m not originally from Oklahoma, but my friends and family always delight in giving me crap about that Fiesta Bowl game. From my perspective, nothing diminishes the sting of that loss like Boise actually getting into another BCS game and succeeding. BSU cementing their rep with some additional post-season success is fine by me. I just wish the Mountain West would get an automatic bid and Boise would join that conference so ESPN can find something else to talk about all season long
by Bill Self's Hair Piece on Nov 23, 2009 12:15 AM CST reply actions
Can't agree more
I have gotten to the point I turn off the sound on ESPN just so I don’t have to listen to the endless drivel about the BCS. It would be nice if they actually commented on the games and the action on the field. We watched one game where they talked nonsense about the Heisman while a player was down on the field. After a literal five minutes, they finally noticed and gave us his name, never told us how serious it was before switching to the field just in time for the snap. For people who had friends playing it was a very long 5 minutes. That was when we switched to listening to the radio commentary.
The only good thing that can come out of losing to Oklahoma State
would be keeping this joke out of the BCS.
GREAT WIN OVER LOUISIANA TECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boise State beat Oregon, who's leading the Pac-10
… and the Pac-10 is considerably stronger than the Big 12 this year.
I’m hoping for a Florida / TCU matchup in the BCS title game. I don’t see the justification of OSU over Boise State for an at-large bid, but the BCS system is anything but fair. If Texas is upset by A&M, we could get Boise State versus Texas in the Fiesta provided Texas beats Nebraska.
I want to see a Bama/TCU NC game
Bama fans are some of the nicest fans as long as you don’t cheer for Auburn.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
This is the match up I want to see as well
AND I think these are the best 2 teams this year. Texas has looked like they have jelled as the season has went along, but the Big 12 is down this year, and the teams Texas are getting have quit a few games ago (like Kansas). I actually think Utah, and BYU are better wins for TCU than any that Texas has had so far this year. (and yes that includes OU)
So one win over a top 15 team at home
coupled with the worst schedule of all time makes Boise State legitimate? Are they top 25, of course, but no serious individual can take these guys seriously. I’d love to see Florida or Alabama put 45+ on these guys, just so this nonsense would be put to rest.
yeah
a team like Boise St (like Utah last year), couldn’t go the sugar bowl and beat an SEC team.
I really think you need to reevaluate, and lose some preconceived prejudices, as there is some good football teams in the MWC, and the WAC. (there are bad team sure, but there is quality there too)
Yeah and Hawaii certainly deserved their Sugar Bowl spot.
Boise State was the third best mid major team last year. They were soundly beaten by a team that OU soundly beat.They did not deserve a spot in the BCS last year. MWC teams are much different than Boise, they play is a quasi-legitimate conference. I’m sympathetic to them getting a BCS spot. Boise and does not and I will not take them seriously until they play more than one quality team a season.
BSU has three significant wins in the past ten years. Two were against Oregon and of course the Fiesta Bowl. Boise plays one semi-quality game a year, at most, and then plays a bunch of middle schools. It’s not like someone is hiding the schedules.
by SoonerDutch on Nov 24, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to see Texas play Nevada right now
Tell me again who Florida and Alabama chose to play this week? Remind me again which Idaho team Oklahoma played their second game this year? If the Broncos had scheduled Idaho State, we would have been laughed out of the WAC. You got me on Tulsa, no serious team would schedule Tulsa — oh wait who did Oklahoma play at home on week three?
Right now, Nevada of the WAC is so improved, I think they could beat just about anyone anywhere, yet there is such a bias in the rankings, they aren’t even listed in the top 25!
Last year, with a team of freshmen and sophomores, we soundly beat Oregon at their home. Not an easy thing to do. We dominated them this year and they appear to be heading to the Rose Bowl.
BSU schedules the best teams available. We aren’t responsible for the elite teams that turn us down (hats off to Georgia that scheduled us and then waxed us royally). Nor are we responsible for the good teams we schedule that slide into oblivion during the wait (Bowling Green and Miami Ohio).
I find it very hard to take strength of schedule arguments from any teams that play Chatanoga, Florida International or Idaho State.
Yeah, lets put that nonsense to rest.
I am not interested in insulting or being insulted. I just wanted to point out some interesting angles.
Big schools schedule smaller schools all the time. The small schools do it for the money, the big schools do it for the win, and the extra home game, as a bigger school would want an away game.
Here’s a tip on getting a conversation going, Don’t be an ass to OU fans, on an OU board, especially one that doesn’t know things like…..Tulsa has won Conf. USA several years and the last few years had one of the best offenses in the country.
Just because you don’t know anything about Tulsa doesn’t make them a bad team, just like some one on here not knowing enough about Boise St.
Tulsa
Sorry about the Tulsa remark. BSU has played them numerous times and they are always a tough game. I have my hot buttons as well. That “strength of schedule” button is one of them. Should have just pointed out that they are a common opponent between Oklahoma and BSU. We didn’t beat them by as much, but we didn’t play them at home either.
Didn’t mean to be an ass. The big middle finger pointed at me on the first comment didn’t get me riled. I shouldn’t have let the others. Further, I am more interested in discussing Oklahoma than BSU.
see his reply to my post…. “didnt expose the playbook” (against TU) WTF ? they crave national exposure but dont lay it out when they get it??
Boise's coach doesn't crave national exposure, quite the opposite
This is my last post, I’m tired of being insulted. Boise’s fans and ESPN think BSU craves attention. Coach Peterson does not! He requires the necessary evil of national exposure for recruiting, but it is an impediment to the long-range game plan. Football is not played just one game at a time. Do you play chess, do you play poker? Let me ask you one thing. Did Oklahoma run all their best plays when they played Idaho State so all their hard competition later on would have the benefit of the information? Think about it. BSU’s hardest competition doesn’t come until the season is over and their opponent has weeks to prepare. Think about it some more instead of preparing knee jerk insults. I don’t want to rub salt in the wound, but do you really think anyone would ever fall for the Statue of Liberty play if they had seen it lots of time before on tape? Coach Peterson only wants to win games, he couldn’t care less about the BCS. I appreciate the honest debate, but I am tired of people assuming Oklahoma is superior to BSU. There is only one way to prove that, and that is on the field. Until Oklahoma schedules BSU instead of Idaho State, the issue will have to remain unresolved. This attitude of assumed superiority will destroy your team. Good bye.
Problem with that arguement is that TULSA was simply your "hardest " opponent left on the schedule. Whereas ISU was OU 2nd game. You nearly lost to an inferior opponent on national tv in October & you are saying it is because the coach didnt open the playbook because other people watch tape. Those were your words. Period. Your reasoning for nearly falling on your sword on national tv. Cuz you think Nevada or Utah St might watch tape…. nice
As I recall
Scarab as I recall, it only takes one point to beat Oklahoma.
You self-righteous prig. Next time you try to insult me, don’t steal someone elses art work.
This is great, Boise fan can't handle criticism. .
Plus using polysyllabic words like “assumed superiority” does not strengthen the validity of your argument.
by SoonerDutch on Nov 24, 2009 12:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
we douche ie I never said it was mine,
in fact I got from a programming buddy of min back in 1986 done on an original PHP, running a very early strain of UNIX, put on one of the first ethernets built at OU.
In parting, I hope we never hear from you again.
You Are Full Of Crap...
…if you think Nevada could beat anyone anywhere right now! That is THE funniest thing I have heard in a long time!
Nevada was 1-3 in their Non-Conference schedule this year. Nevada lost to the WORST team in the MWC, Colorado State, who got beat this weekend, by the WORST team in D-1, New Mexico!
I really hope you were not serious about your Nevada remark?!?!?
Nevada
I wish I was joking. They were indeed terrible their first three games. But have gotten better and better with each game. I tell you what, if BSU kicks them around this Friday, then I was joking, if they beat us, then no, I wasn’t joking. They have three running backs over 1,000 yards already this year. Their quarterback has 2,000 passing and over 1,000 rushing. This AFTER one of the worst starts in their history.
Teams don’t stay the same, some get better, some get worse as the season progresses. I have to put them in the “get better” category.
Don't Understand
http://j-darin-darst.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/5814809/18500602
I just don’t understand people sometimes! Yeah, it’s great that you guys scored 60+ points on some of these teams, but have you stopped to look who you played?
San Jose State? New Mexico St? Those are 2 of the WORST teams in ALL of college football. Again, back to my point, Nevada’s SOS is #111—pathethic!
With exception to maybe Oregon, if any team in the top half of the Big XII played Boise’s schedule, they’d be undefeated, too…
GBR!!!
by Screwface on Nov 25, 2009 3:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
um, didnt Tulsa give BSU its biggest threat this year? Wasnt it Tulsa who was driving to tie the game when a wide open receiver slid on the wet turf trying to chance a pass with the end zone deade ahead? For the record I dont discredit BSU, because of the Fiesta Bowl….i do for the ridiculous turf & the fact that you give in & play on Thursday & BS like that to get exposure. Win & you wont need it.
You are right on all counts
Tulsa played a great game and had a chance to win. We played them straight up football with very little of the playbook exposed. Everyone watches tape.
As for the blue turf, we love it! We love that other people hate it! Now all other green fields look odd to us. Don’t expect others to like it, but then we don’t ask them to pay for it either.
I HATE playing on Thursday. It is the price you pay when you are a mid-major and need the exposure to find great, but overlooked recruits. Boise does what it does with only a few three star recruits on down to walk-ons. When you are an up and coming team, you have to pay your dues — apparently over and over.
Ask any serious BSU fan and I think they would tell you one of our biggest long term goals is to play a major BCS school each and ever Saturday. It is excruciatingly hard to build a tradition of Saturday football when the team is never playing on Saturday. We are not the Sooners, we have to take what is offered. There are no BCS schools willing to play us and no BCS conferences inviting us to join. There is that chasm again.
you & I have had some good chats before. but i disagree with playing BCS teams. I think that you could get some scheduling of teams like wake forest, vandy, nc state, norrthwestern without a lot of effort. sure you may not get a home & home out of it but if what you are wanting is to legitimize your program to the naysayers then it doesnt really matter. i hate it win announcers bring it up, but pull a fresno state “we will play them anywhere anytime”. And publicize teams who arent willing to play you. Look at all the flack OU caught about playing chattanooga, when actually Clemson backed out of a game & OU had to fill it. You dont hear about ’Bama taking any crap for playing Chatty in november! OU played argueably as tough as schedule last year with Chattanooga as Alabama did this year…
Anyway sorry but you can make inroads on your schedule. Do some stuff like schedule minor BCS schools or traditionally respected programs, like a NC or even Virginia. Afterall BSU whould beat them anyway, right? And then you wont have such patsies, just softies….
so you didnt need to bring out the trick plays to beat a team you were supposed to beat (Tulsa) only the teams you cant beat straight up? I am not sure what the play book comment meant. BSU had their coveted national exposure on ESPN & instead of wiping the turf with Tulsa as did * oh my gosh OU by 50* the week before, your coach chose to “not open the playbook” so instead BSU could look overrated? Is that what you are saying? Cause that is how it reads… Because “EVERYONE WATCHED TAPE”, you afraid that big bad Idaho ST or Utah ST is going to “watch the tape”???? That is why no one is respecting you around here!
Let's not put that nonsense to rest.
September 3 No. 16 Oregon W 19-8 1-0 (0-0)
September 12 Miami (OH) W 48-0 2-0 (0-0)
September 18 at Fresno State W 51-34 3-0 (1-0)
September 26 at Bowling Green W 49-14 4-0 (1-0)
October 3 UC Davis W 34-16 5-0 (1-0)
October 14 at Tulsa W 28-21 6-0 (1-0)
October 24 at Hawaii W 54-9 7-0 (2-0)
October 31 San Jose State W 45-7 8-0 (3-0)
November 6 at Louisiana Tech W 45-35 9-0 (4-0)
November 14 Idaho W 63-25 10-0 (5-0)
November 20 at Utah State W 52-21 11-0 (6-0)
November 27 Nevada 10:00 PM ET Tickets
December 5 New Mexico State 3:00 PM ET Tickets
One quality game at home none the less…
Saying Nevada, a team that got shut out against Notre Dame, could beat anyone anywhere is absolutely absurd…
Nothing personal
(DISCLAIMER: I’m one of those people who still tires of hearing how BSU “legitimized” it’s position with its win against OU.)
Now, that being said, I welcome and respect your opinion and now provide this response. The University of Oklahoma doesn’t play the spoiler. We don’t “factor in” to who plays for the National Championship. WE PLAY FOR IT. PEOPLE TRY TO SPOIL FOR US. We are really NOT “interested in knowing we are still a factor”. Again, nothing personal, but your expression of that concept as some sort of consolation prize that should make us feel better about a once-promising season now in shambles, is another stark reminder of the chasm between your program and ours. Our brethren at OSU have for years relished that role…because it’s all they have. We don’t think that way, and I pray to God that we never will. If I ever have to sit around and hope that OU is somehow a factor in who goes to the National Championship game, and not hope that we go ourselves, I will know that it’s time for me to quit watching OU football, and possibly for OU to drop its program altogether.
Further, we play to win against OSU this week. We don’t give a flying flip about OSU or BSU and who goes or who stays. That line of thought, unless it’s against a team who’s truly a worthy rival of ours (Texas, Nebraska), would be yet another sign that we’re just a bunch of losers who don’t deserve a chance to go for it and who would be better off merely forfeiting the game Saturday night. We also don’t care that anyone in Idaho is going to watch the game with great interest. Perhaps someone in Bora Bora will watch it with great interest, too. Speaking for myself, I’m watching the game merely out of the obligation of my birth and my status as an alumnus, knowing that a) this game is meaningless to our season and b) we’re probably going to lose, anyway.
So thanks for the sentiment, but you really don’t know what you’re talking about. Perhaps, in 30-40 years, if you keep winning, get into a decent conference, and maybe pick up a national championship or two of your own, you will understand why many of us would feel slighted if someone came along and suggested the same thing to you.
Interesting
My cousins in Nebraska used to say very similar things about how great their program was. Notre Dame and University of Miami fans still say such things. It is called whistling in the dark. Bad things happened to programs. That can’t be helped. How you react to the bad things determines whether it is a rebuilding year or the start of a spiral down hill. Saying you are superior is not the same thing as being superior.
You aren’t interested in the ramifications of the game. I get that. Others might, the post was for them.
As for your statement about BSU not knowing what it like being national champions, you don’t know what YOU are talking about. We have worked our way up the hard way winning national championships at all levels on the way up from Jr. College status. We are proud that we have had to prove ourselves every step up. At every level we were told we couldn’t compete with the big boys. We haven’t had BCS level of play “handed to us on a silver platter”. We know we aren’t there yet, but we will be in a few more years.
You miss the point
OU doesn’t care about the national ramifications of the OU/OSU game. We want to beat OSU cause they are OSU. Has nothing to do with the season or national games, or national championships.
As for being a spoiler….he’s right. To even have that suggested as our role is offensive. Losing or average programs think that way. OU does not think that way, even in a down year. That’s what makes a top program, the refusal, to expect to be anything less than great (and then backing it up with top facilities, coaches, etc, unlike Miami, or Notre Dame, or Michigan)
I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about
I, unlike our media today, do my research before I post. I actually had a rather lengthy first paragraph to my initial post, which I deleted in the interest of providing a reasoned response, rather than just bashing. However, since you’re going to call me out on it (and I do find it interesting that you responded better to the bird in the first reply than to my more reasoned response), I’ll go ahead and let fly.
Let me use the facts to provide you with some perspective. Boise State’s program has been running since 1932. You have one NC at the juco level (1958) and one NC in I-AA (1980). That’s wonderful and all, but now it’s time for the rest. You’ve been at the D-I level since 1996. You play in the WAC. And with all due respect, winning a football NC at the juco or I-AA level means jack squat in D-I.
If you want to start throwing stones, I could just as easily say that the entire BSU football program is based on gimmicks. Why would a respectable program need a blue-turf home field, when no other top-quality program needs something so garish? Why have four of your ten bowl appearances been in your home bowl, hosted at your home field? Why would a top-notch program like yours need a “legitimizing” victory that came as it did in the Fiesta Bowl, against an OU team that played absolutely flat until the final quarter, and where you STILL needed trick plays and gimmicks to win…in OVERTIME…BY A SINGLE POINT? Know why no top teams want to play you? It’s not because they’re afraid of you…it’s because there’s absolutely no upside for them. If OU had won that Fiesta Bowl, we gained nothing. Nothing was at stake for us, and we were expected to win handily. We would not even have gained prestige points for beating you. But we lost…and we see how it’s been for the past 4 years.
Let me clue you in further to what I’m saying about your incredible victory. I have a lot more respect for West Virginia, who defeated us handily the next year, because they played us straight-up and beat us soundly, WITHOUT any sort of gimmicks. We came out and played like a bunch of bushers, and we got what we deserved.
Now that the rant is over, let’s get back to brass tacks. I’m not trying to suggest that we’re superior, nor that a chance at an NC is somehow our birthright. We play and plan and fight every year, because that’s what we’re about. However, our outlook on life is quite different than yours, and you don’t get that yet. I can respect that your school has moved up through the ranks, and here you are on the Big Stage. But we’ve been here a long time, we have a tradition that you just flat-out don’t have. We have a lot of things that you don’t have. I’m not trying to talk down to you, but you CAN’T understand what you don’t have and have never experienced. Further, most Sooner fans (or any fans from any estabilshed traditional football power school) are never going to appreciate some Johnny-come-lately program who feels entitled to respect because they’ve had a few wins. In the Big 8/Big 12, Kansas State was terrible for 5 decades, then suddenly started getting good in the 90s and began to believe that they deserved respect and started going around talking trash to the rest of the conference. (Want to guess how well that went over?) The key is, pay your dues, and you’ll get your turn. BSU has NOT done that yet. You might THINK you have, but that really isn’t what matters, you know…when you continue to rely on gimmickry for success, people will see that and refuse to give you what you somehow feel you are now entitled to. When I gave you my last line about winning consistently for 30-40 years and picking up some NCs (DIVISION-I NCs, not the kind you already have), that’s what I meant. But don’t come here after 13 years in D-I and act like you know how we feel or that you have some sort of position or authority to talk to us like you have.
Further, to call me out for whistling in the dark further demonstrates your lack of understanding. We KNOW we’ll get back to where we want to be. Why? We’ve done it several times before. In our early years, we were terrible…then Bennie Owen came along and took us to the next level. That’s why we still play on Owen Field. During the Depression we suffered terribly, in many ways…then Bud Wilkinson came along and got us to the top of the game (three NCs, NCAA-record . After he left, we stank, then Barry Switzer came along…see the pattern emerging? We DO rebuild here…the question for us is NEVER “if”. The fact that you seem to think Notre Dame and Nebraska can’t and won’t only demonstrates that you just haven’t been around very long. Seriously, I loathe and despise Notre Dame, but they’ve got too much going for them to stay down for long. Ditto Nebraska. Nearly everyone on this board GREW UP living and dying by OU football…some of my earliest memories are of my dad listening to OU football on the radio…then playing the games again after he had recorded them on cassette tape. When did you start cheering for Boise State? I gotta be honest…if you can say with all sincerity that YOU’VE been living and dying by Boise State football for as long as you can remember, I WILL give you some additional personal respect. But I doubt there are more than 100 people who are over age 25 and have been cheering for Boise State football their entire life…or can remember cheering for Boise State when they won their last NC.
Personally, I didn’t think your initial post was intended to be offensive…you intended to try to make us feel better. I can respect that also, which is why I did not originally post this other stuff. But don’t come in here and basically say, “Hey guys, I know your season is DOA, but you get the pleasure of knowing your final game might get my team into contention for something!” Can you see how that might be taken unkindly? Can you seriously say you thought we’d be OK with your offering?
Sorry to everyone for such a long post
If you don’t read it, I won’t be offended…even you, BSU81. I’m just too long-winded for my own good.
You need not apologize to any regular members on this board.
You have eloquently said everything I would have like to said
I would add this to it;
this year there are fans, players and maybe some coaches who have thrown in the towel for this year, some who have given up hope etc. BUT, the people of this board have not and will not and could give a damn less about BSh. State and their program and their one claim to fame win. We have 7 NC’s and have been in a game for the NC or been in the NC game itself at least another 10 times. When the likes of lOSUr State and BSh. State can garner those type of stats, then I will consider what they have to say. Until then I consider the first post of the OP my one and only response.
BOOMER SOONER… beat the hell out of lOSUr State.
Okay, strength of character defined.
“Yet, here is the thing. Strength of Character. As fans, we look at all these things, but there is something about the joy of playing and watching great football that transcends such arguments, whether it is a pick-up game in the back yard with the kids after dinner or in front of a packed house at Memorial Stadium this Saturday.”
I don’t buy into “assumed superiority.” I do buy into setting a standard of excellence and backing it with intelligent goal-driven action with accountability at all levels. Strength of Character.
Am I getting close?
Sigh
Well you would figure this would happen if a BSU fan came on here, but I happen to think that he was pointing out that our game has significant BCS bowl game implications. He even says…
As we settled into our seats, we met many a wonderful Sooner fan. A class act all the way.
And then you guys proceeded to lay into him, proving his preconceived notions of Sooner fans wrong! Call me crazy, but I think y’all were being a bit tough on the guy. He even followed up the first comment with:
Okay, I guess I’m not welcome. Still, all the best to the Sooners
Come on. This guy could have come on here and written some really douchey fan post talking about how BSU was still undefeated and the Sooners were on the cusp of bowl eligibility and then laughed in our face about how much we suck. But he didn’t. I’m pretty sure he made every attempt to be classy, and things only got ugly when he was backed into a corner.
Personally, I’m glad there’s level headed fans like this for teams around the country so we can have an honest discussion of football. So he roots for BSU, so what? It’s not like he’s the one who ran the Statue of Liberty play.
While I hate the Boise State football team for getting their glory at my team’s expense, I have no problem with “BSU81”.
I’ll close off with saying that BSU isn’t even close to being the best non-BCS conference team…that honor falls to TCU (by a long shot).
by dishingoutdimes on Nov 24, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions
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