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THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!! I cant take it anymore...WTF?  What do you think about a coach who has a heisman qb and runs the $%#%@#% ball (with first team rb on bench) completely abandons pass...im tired of it....BOISE STATE?  WEST VIRGINIA?? NOW FLORIDA???  TIME TO FIRE STOOPS!!!  Yeah so what we won big 12, we didnt even beat them longhorns and now we choked up another bcs game.  You know what else sucks...tx won their bcs game.   Just so that the rest of the sooner nation realizes that...TEXAS WON AND WE DIDN'T!!!!!!!TEXAS BEAT US AGAIN!!!!!!BYE BYE STOOPS

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So you joined tonight

to say one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read?

Firing Stoops would be the biggest mistake ever. Who out there could we go get to replace him?

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by Jubanator14 on Jan 8, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions  

Dennis Franchione?

I jest…In all seriousness, I thought Stoops might be on the hot seat if he lost, but OU fans need to stay away from the edge of that cliff. Stoops is one of the best there is right now. However, there has been something fundamentally wrong with the program the past 5 years. It isn’t a knock on the talent or coaching…It’s just that the team can’t get up for their bowl games for some reason…

by HornPossessed on Jan 8, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

They showed up tonight

The big play by Harvin to start the 4th and the huge INT was the difference in the game. When a game is that tight, there are always one or two plays that swing it one way or another and Florida got those bounces.

Also, all of the problems the refs were having in the 1st quarter really screwed with our continuity and flow.

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by Jubanator14 on Jan 9, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Here come the TYPICAL excuses.. EVERY DAMN YEAR WITH YOU WHINERS

“Also, all of the problems the refs were having in the 1st quarter really screwed with our continuity and flow.”

BooHooHoo.. TYPICAL SOONER RESPONSE..

BooHooHoo.. TYPICAL SOONER RESPONSE..Florida had more penalties, by the way.

by BigGameBobLOL on Jan 9, 2009 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude.. Stoops is not one of the best there is.. period

He gets into a game that matters and gets SMOKED.. He is overrated.. PERIOD!. Good coaches, like Mack Brown, go take Championships from the “greatest team ever assembled”.. They don’t get rolled up by 2 scores, and more, when the lights are shining brightest..

Joklahoma is a laughing stock…

by BigGameBobLOL on Jan 9, 2009 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

What coach couldn't lose games that matter?

Stoops is OVERRATED.. Take your mouth off the Sooner teat and look real hard at what 0-5 in BCS games means.. We’ll see you in Dallas next year, Sooner.. You have another Horn beating coming

Mack Brown is better.. period.. You CANNOT argue the statistics..

by BigGameBobLOL on Jan 9, 2009 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, you CANNOT agrue the statistics

Mack Brown: one conference title in his entire 20+ year career, including Tulane and North Carolina
Bob Stoops: six conference titles in ten years

If you think Mack Brown would have won this game tonight, you’re nuts.

All the people begging for Stoops to be fired need to come back off the ledge and gain a little perspective. Why have you forgotten what it was like for ten years before Stoops got here?

by Sooner71 on Jan 9, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

NOT THAT STUPID....

Nope…not coach “cant make an aggie win” franchione….what about veneble? what about that tx def coordinator? They wouldnt put up with this choking a bowl game crap. I like stoops…not hoping on any kind of band wagon…just time to move on. and i beg to differ about your comment on him being college fb best…looks like that’s urban meyer.

by htownsooner on Jan 9, 2009 12:00 AM CST reply actions  

You're really hire a longhorn?

Besides, the guy just signed a deal with us..keep looking.

Firing Stoops would make the entire city of Austin giddy, btw. Just sayin’.

by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 9, 2009 4:55 AM CST up reply actions  

and yeah i just joined tonight to say my piece of mind

if you dont like it o well….im tired of losing big games…apparently you dont mind choking jubanator.

by htownsooner on Jan 9, 2009 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

No I don't see this as choking

Is the Big 12 title not a big game? Bedlam not a big game? You want to go back to the John Blake era?

You are the kind of fan that beats his chest when we are winning and then can turn on a dime when we lose. Just like the people I saw at the TCU game in 2005 and just like last year when I went to the Fiesta Bowl and as I leave all I can hear is Sooner “fans” screaming to fire Stoops, etc. That kind of talk isn’t smart.

The fact that you titled this fanpost, CHOKELAHOMA tells me everything I need to know about you as a Sooner “fan”.

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by Jubanator14 on Jan 9, 2009 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I prefer Joklahoma.. OU SUCKS

BIG GAME BOB, my nuts..

Mack Brown any day

by BigGameBobLOL on Jan 9, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree with Joklahoma

It is unfair to label Oklahoma as “CHOKLAHOMA”. To imply that a team chokes, would be to imply that the better team lost, which is clearly not the case in these last 5 BCS games. Oklahoma over the years is very much like Ohio St. They are both overrated teams that always get the benefit of the doubt in the polls. Remember 2003 (losing the Big 12 title game and still playing for the NC) and 2004? I hope that this year will finally cause the pollsters to see Oklahoma as who they really are, an overrated team playing in a weak, watered down conference.

by Jumpn_JackFlash on Jan 9, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

"Watered down confernce" aye...

I think your confusing the Big XII with the ACC.

ATX

by Atownatx on Jan 9, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Uh yeah Georgia Tech is the highest ranked team at #14.

So how did your Auburn Tigers do this year? Not even bowl eligible.

ATX

by Atownatx on Jan 9, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Auburn stunk it up big time this year

I am not making excuses for them. They were pathetic.

by Jumpn_JackFlash on Jan 9, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

If fact, they were so bad, I suspect they would have only been the 4th or 5th best team had they played in the Big 12 this year.

by Jumpn_JackFlash on Jan 9, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Restrained Frustration

I think htownsooner may be taking this a bit too far with his demands for Stoops to be fired but I completely understand the anger and discontent. I myself have spewed obscenities tonight because I am so sick and tired of seeing OU lose games when the other team is given more than a week to prepare. This is a repeated pattern that points directly to preparation and therefore coaching. The problem with all of this is how mad can you get at a guy who has been in 4 national championships in 9 years?

by OU11 on Jan 9, 2009 12:08 AM CST reply actions  

ya jubanator

ok you try living in texas to defend the sooners everyday…some of us have actually found life outside of winds sweeping down the plains…dont doubt my ties and loyalty…yes i remember john blake, i played then. i remember when the only strong push in norman was an aubrey beavers pass rush and then praying to God PJ would catch everything thrown his way. chokelahoma is just something you get used to hearing living outside of norman.

by htownsooner on Jan 9, 2009 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

Wow

are you really an OU supporter? I assumed you were from another school (possibly my own) just masquerading to rub it in to the real fans, but perhaps not.

If you genuinely want to get rid of Stoops, you should be careful what you ask for. Bob Stoops is easily one of the top 5 coaches working today. But here’s to hoping the rest of SoonerNation feels as you do.

by BrooklynHorn on Jan 9, 2009 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Not as bad as maybe you feel right now!

Htown, I have lived in Htown, and currently reside in another major city in Texas. I too played during the Blake era. I do defend the Sooners but honestly I dont have to very often. Most level headed Texas fans that I come across daily realize that good ole boy Mack only has one Championship. The same number as Stoops. If anybody wants to talk about a program stacked with athletic ability that should be winning a National Championship every year its Texas. It is time for Stoops to shake up the staff because of the inbreeding that has happen for too long. We have promoted from within instead of going out to get the best possible coaches in every spot.

by OU11 on Jan 9, 2009 12:42 AM CST reply actions  

Blake era

By the way, you missed the best part of the Blake era: Hey uhh Brandon you ran the option in highschool right? Ok well go in there and run it! You’re our new QB

by OU11 on Jan 9, 2009 12:44 AM CST reply actions  

Gators Fan.

Fuck you. No, seriously… fuck you. The Sooners have nothing to be ashamed about tonight. I’ll leave it up to their fans to educate you, but – as a Gators fan – I say: fuck you. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

by ejruiz on Jan 9, 2009 4:53 AM CST reply actions  

Sooners have nothing to be ashamed about?

LOLOLOLOLOL

yet ANOTHER BCS loss by 2 scores? 0-5? Yeah.. Nothing to be ashamed about there.. NO SIREEE..

See you in Dallas next year, Sooner..

by BigGameBobLOL on Jan 9, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

OU SUCKS!

Once again, “Big Game Bob” shows that he is OVERRATED… And don’t think you don’t have an ass kicking coming in Dallas next year Sooner.. UT will not forget being snubbed by the 2nd best team in the Big 12.. 0-5 = coincedence? Hardly.. Stoops CANNOT win the big game, while MACK BROWN gets it done.. Nice .286 winning % in BCS bowls, Sooner fan. You, like Dallas Cowboy fan, can finally shut your pompous, arrogant mouths.. We’ll see you in Dallas, Sooner. Even you know your ass is getting kicked..

by BigGameBobLOL on Jan 9, 2009 8:28 AM CST reply actions  

Can I get some insight from you Sooner fans about your recent BCS troubles?

Of the last 5 BCS games, which was the most embarrassing loss? It can’t be UF because everyone knew they were the better team.

LSU 2003, USC 2004, Boise ST 2006, or WV 2007?

by Jumpn_JackFlash on Jan 9, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

"POOR COACHING"

 THERE’S YOUR SOONER INSIGHT..

by OUBlows on Jan 9, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Let me preface this by saying I’m a Texas fan.

I really can’t fault OU for running the ball on 4th down on the 1 yard line. That entire drive their OLine had been blowing UF’s line off the ball and they were averaging, what, 9 YPC? I just thought it was a mistake to do it to the left side when it was the right side that was dominant all night. Additionally I’ve always been an advocate of going for it inside the three yard line because even if you fail, you put the opposing offense in an awful position.

Bradford’s second INT wasn’t his fault either, it was a great throw and a great play by the defender.

I’m not really sure why Stoops is getting the blame for this particular loss. The only mistake I saw that goes directly on him was the FG try from outside the kicker’s range. All the other coaching mistakes were play-specific ones which were clearly called by the relevant coordinator.

The biggest failure to me was that, having discovered that they could run the ball on UF, OU decided to run it on every play instead of mixing runs and passes. You can’t do that against an equally/more talented opponent. I can only think of one drive in the whole game when they both ran the ball and threw the ball more than twice each. They really seemed to just be alternating between throwing the ball on every play one drive, then running it on every play the next.

OU played much better than I thought they would on defense. The real difference maker in the game was clearly Harvin, not Tebow. Tebow was ineffective until the threat of Harvin taking handoffs was introduced.

At times it seemed like Bradford had a concussion. I know that his thousand yard stare isn’t unusual but he seemed really out of it to me in the second half.

I would note that the ACC refs actually calling holding really crimped OU’s OL. Big 12 refs seem to ignore blatant holding on a constant basis (yes, they ignore Texas’s holding too) and I have no idea why. It really puts us (The Big 12 in general) at a disadvantage when we get used to just tackling opposing DEs and then all the sudden can’t do it in big OOC games.

Even though OU didn’t cover the spread they outplayed my expectations.

by hodad on Jan 9, 2009 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

I think OU was clearly prepared and played solid for most of the game. Remember, this was supposed to be a high flying Florida offense that OU kept in check for thre qtrs. Not bad. Had OU taken their time on the 4th down call, maybe used a time out, they may have had a better shot. The interception was a little fluky, and the hold on the pass down to the five stopped that momentum. Really, had OU found a way to make those three plays I have a feeling we’d be hearing how great Stoops is.

OU didn’t choke. They were simply beat by a slightly better team who made very few mistakes and didn’t drop a single pass – even in tight coverage. Simple as that.

by Tech92 on Jan 9, 2009 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

Good post.

People can say all they want about Stoops choking. When you play in the Big XII, you’re playing teams in your conference, not necessarily the top teams in the nation. When you play in the National Title game, you are playing against the top team in the nation.

There’s not a fan, a coach, a team that would deny the fact they wouldn’t mind being in the title game 4 years out of 10 years, even though their record is 1-3. Oklahoma got blown out by USC, but played pretty close games with LSU and now Florida.

by soxboys21 on Jan 9, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Bob Stoops is still the #1 coach in College football IMO..

He has the Sooners competing for the Big 12 and the National Titles every year and thats good enough for me. I’ve been around long enough to remember Bud, Chuck. Barry, Gary, Howard and John, and Bob is the cream of the crop. He’ll be wining a lot more before hes through and hopefully he’ll be doing it all at OU. In his 10 year tenure we have beaten the Longhorns 7 times. Check the history books for how many of the teams we play year in and out have beaten us even twice in that 10 year period. The bowl losses are dissapointing but we have at least been there. You can’t win those games if you aren’t there to play them.

by ejone on Jan 10, 2009 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

#1

I think it is six wins against Texas though.

2000, `01, `02, `03, `04, `07

by ccmachine on Jan 10, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

pete carroll is the best coach in college football

then mack brown, then bob stoops

Hotty Toddy and Hook'em Horns.

by Olemissreb451 on Jan 10, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Tell me how all those guys are better than Meyer?

Brown – One National Title in 11 years at a national powerhouse program…
Carroll – 2 National Titles in 8 years at a national powerhouse program…
Stoops – 1 National Title in 10 years at a national powerhouse program….
Meyer – 2 National Titles in 4 years at a national powerhouse program….

I think you can make an argument for Carroll because of all his conference titles and better overall record, but the others, not so much.

by skigator93 on Jan 12, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I stand corrected...

I forgot about ‘99. Who’s counting. I have a lot of respect for Mack Brown, but he’s far from a legend yet.

by ejone on Jan 10, 2009 4:38 PM CST reply actions  

Firing Stoops? Bad Idea

Coming from this Florida alum, I was in school when Bob Stoops helped the Gators win their first National Championship. I was also around when we were screaming for Bob Stoops after Steve Spurrier left Florida. Around that time, Florida was losing its luster even though we did get one more SEC championship out of the Ole’ Ball Coach before he left, folks were starting to grumble about getting rid of him as well.

The only thing Spurrier did by leaving was giving Bob Stoops a pay raise, players like Jabbar Gaffney bolting to the NFL, and an AD giving us Ron Zook. I tell you, don’t ask for another coach. You might end up like Florida and have some awful years.

I know it’s a hard pill to swallow, but I’d rather have a coach that’s consistently in a BCS bowl than a flash in the pan. Boise State was the talk of the town two years ago, what happend this year? 12-0 and then a loss in the Poinsettia Bowl to TCU, and many people probably don’t even know or don’t care. Don’t be too eager to get rid of your coach. There are plenty of schools out there capable of having a top caliber team who’d pay big money for him.

by GoGators on Jan 11, 2009 12:49 AM CST reply actions  

+1

Thanks, GoGators, I couldn’t have said it better. Congratulations on a great game and win. Hopefully we will have the chance to play your team again one day. 12-2 I’ll take every year. You have to keep your perspective. I believe that we will have another chance again one day. I also know that there are plenty of schools out there licking their chops over the thought that OU may be getting tired of a coach that loses 1 or 2 games a year!!!!

by ejone on Jan 11, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Stoops...

You’re freaking crazy if you think Stoops is anything less than an elite-caliber coach.

Dude has taken the Sooners to 4 championship games in his tenure. 4. That’s off the goddamn charts.

Yeah, he’s only won one. And he’s had some inexplicable losses. Wait… are they really that inexplicable? Aside from the pasting by West Virginia…

1) The Boise State loss. Biggest fluke in recent sports history. No way the Broncos win that game more than once out of 5 times.
2) USC. Sorry, that was simply a much better team.
3) LSU. Also a lot better.
4) Florida. Close loss to a better team. Oklahoma was prepared and did a lot of things right. Florida was simply a little bit better.

No shame in losing the way they lost. None whatsoever.

Stoops has had a weird string of events culminate in a sh*tload of BCS losses. But in all but two (Boise State, West Virginia) he was either bringing a team that couldn’t hang or bringing a great team that DID hang but simply lost to one that was better.

Step away from the ledge, folks. The insanity is getting to some of you.

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by Gatorpilot on Jan 12, 2009 9:03 PM CST reply actions  

Even West Virginia wasn't that bad

They were one game away from playing for the National Title last year. They were really good and really really fast in person.

The Boise St. game isn’t that bad if you remember that that OU team was probably the worst of Stoops 6 Big 12 championship teams. Paul Thompson moved from WR back to QB after Bomar got kicked off right before the season then AD went down halfway through. That year was Stoops’ best coaching job to date.

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by Jubanator14 on Jan 13, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

True.

WVU wasn’t bad at all that year. I think it was the absolute ass-whipping which they administered which chapped the hides of OU fans. And they have a right to be irritated about looking so lousy in a big game like that.

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by Gatorpilot on Jan 15, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah but wouldn't all but maybe 5 programs would take Stoops as a coach?

100-24 record, 6 Big 12 titles in 10 years, 1 National Title, 2 Heisman winners, 1 Rose Bowl Win, only coach to coach in all 5 BCS Bowls, the coaching tree, 6-4 against Texas & 8-2 against Oklahoma St.

Other than USC, LSU, Florida, Texas and Ohio St., what school wouldn’t want that?

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by Jubanator14 on Jan 15, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

As posted above, I agree.

I was also pointing out the folly of having anything more than a passing frustration with Stoops. Hey, I’d be frustrated too if the Gators went to the Big One four times and lost three of them. But realism has to set in shortly thereafter… Stoops is one of the best in the biz.

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by Gatorpilot on Jan 15, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah but before Stoops

It was real bad here.

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by Jubanator14 on Jan 16, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think UGA would give up Richt for Stoops

I also think Alabama is pretty happy with Saban.

That doesn’t mean Stoops isn’t a top 5 coach, just that there are a few other teams who should be more than happy with what they have.

by skigator93 on Jan 16, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I knew I was leaving someone off

Then again, Georgia has never lived up to the hype.

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by Jubanator14 on Jan 16, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that is because of a couple overrated players

Stafford being Exhibit A. Richt has turned UGA from a pretty solid team, to one of the top 10 national powerhouses. There isn’t a team out there now that UGA is not at least capable of beating on any given Saturday.

by skigator93 on Jan 18, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

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