Coaches Put Sooners At #2
by ccmachine on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM CST
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USA Today Ranking
| Rank | Team | Record | Pts | Last Week |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. | Alabama (56) | (11-0) | 1518 | 1 |
| 2. | Oklahoma (4) | (10-1) | 1412 | 5 |
| 3. | Florida (1) | (10-1) | 1401 | 3 |
| 4. | Texas | (10-1) | 1370 | 4 |
| 5. | USC | (9-1) | 1288 | 6 |
| 6. | Penn St. | (11-1) | 1157 | 8 |
| 7. | Utah | (12-0) | 1153 | 7 |
| 8. | Texas Tech | (10-1) | 1073 | 2 |
| 9. | Boise St. | (11-0) | 1033 | 9 |
| 10. | Ohio St. | (10-2) | 994 | 10 |
| 11. | Missouri | (9-2) | 896 | 11 |
| 12. | Oklahoma St. | (9-2) | 858 | 12 |
| 13. | Georgia | (9-2) | 842 | 13 |
| 14. | TCU | (10-2) | 695 | 17 |
| 15. | Ball St. | (11-0) | 673 | 16 |
| 16. | Cincinnati | (9-2) | 572 | 20 |
| 17. | Oregon St. | (8-3) | 544 | 21 |
| 18. | Oregon | (8-3) | 397 | 22 |
| 19. | BYU | (10-2) | 321 | 14 |
| 20. | Northwestern | (9-3) | 310 | 24 |
| 21. | Michigan St. | (9-3) | 296 | 15 |
| 22. | Boston Coll. | (8-3) | 290 | 25 |
| 23. | Georgia Tech | (8-3) | 241 | NR |
| 24. | Florida St. | (8-3) | 204 | NR |
| 25. | West Virginia | (7-3) | 83 | NR |
- Pittsburgh 43,
- Mississippi 40,
- LSU 30,
- Iowa 26,
- W. Michigan 20,
- Connecticut 15,
- Maryland 9,
- Tulsa 6,
- South Florida 3,
- Nebraska 3,
- Virginia Tech 2,
- South Carolina 2,
- Miami (FL) 2,
- California 2,
- Wake Forest 1
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See what the Harris poll does
Then onto the BCS poll. There is no doubt if the Sooners roll into Stillwater next week and put up a big number on them then we will be headed to the Big XII Championship game with Mizzou. With a shot at one of the SEC teams Jan. 8th in Miami.
BOOMER SOONER!!
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Nov 23, 2008 2:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If We are able to win next week
It would be something Tech and Texas couldn’t do and that was win a huge road game at night on ABC.
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by Jubanator14 on Nov 23, 2008 2:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I agree. If the Sooners win next week in Stillwater it will be a better win than Texas beating OSU in Austin by only 4.
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Nov 23, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think comparing OSU games is what it should come down to...
When you have a head to head game to look at.
by the1austin on Nov 23, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you are saying
Tech should be #2?
Thought Clint Hurdle should be fired before it was cool.
by Redhawk on Nov 23, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Sooners wi come out a winner next Satuday night.
If the defense plays close to last night’s performance the pokies will get their worst loss ever.
by scarab on Nov 23, 2008 2:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
still need Tech help
OU still needs Tech to beat Baylor as well as the win over OSU to get the Big XII nod (which I think is assured should the above happen). If Tech loses, that head-to-head tiebreaker becomes applicable and Texas would go to KC.
I do think the win last night has, at least, opened up the door for a possible split national title. A win over OSU will get OU to 2 in the AP Poll (no matter what happens w/Tech and Baylor) and a loss by the SEC team in Miami (along with a bowl win) would give OU an AP championship.
by DoubleB on Nov 23, 2008 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Harris poll is out
1. Bama
2. Florida
3. OU
4. Texas
It is now up to the computers to see where the BCS shakes out.
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Nov 23, 2008 3:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Texas does have a trump card.
They beat Oklahoma on a neutral field.
Texas is ranked second in the BCS.
by the1austin on Nov 23, 2008 7:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But Tech has the trump card
on Texas…and OU has the trump card on Tech.
It’s a circular argument, that holds no water. Texas had one conference loss. Tech has one conference loss, and OU has one conference loss.
Thought Clint Hurdle should be fired before it was cool.
by Redhawk on Nov 23, 2008 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Redhawk is right
If you take Texas over OU because of the RRS, then you are discounting the Tech game. If you take OU over Texas you are discounting the RRS.
Basically I see it going this way. All of the big Big 12 games so far this season have been won by the home team. If we go in and beat OSU next week on the road, that will be the trump card over Texas and Tech because it would have been the only true road game won over the Big 12 South’s big four.
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by Jubanator14 on Nov 23, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The BCS is out now
Thought Clint Hurdle should be fired before it was cool.
by Redhawk on Nov 23, 2008 7:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I see the BCS is placing the chip on our shoulders again.
This a good rank if you really think about it. This puts an even bigger ‘chip’ on the Sooners shouders. I am starting to pity the Pokes. That is pity patter of the stomping feet of Murray, Brown, Robinson, Loadholt, Beal, Lewis, Box, McCoy, Jackson, all the rest of the Sooners, and the ultimate hitman Nic Harris.
One more thing the BCS computers are a farce. They use stats, two programmers can use the very same statistics and prove two totally different outcomes. The stats they choose to use are up to the programmers. Horse crap they are.
by scarab on Nov 23, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
calonghorn
I’m glad the sooners were able to expose the red raiders before they lost Missouri and embarrassed the Big 12 by thinking they could stay on a “non-home” field with either Alabama or Florida. At least now if it’s either OU or UT, we’ll at least have a game.
The three way tie situation is difficult. You have the “Hot Team” argument versus the “Head-to-Head argument” neither of which is very satisfying. Blake Gideon blew his chance to seal this argument, but it doesn’t matter. What will happen? Geez, I have no clue. The win by UT in Dallas means we get some benefit from OU wins in the computers.
There is one common theme among all the pundits and announcers about how well OU is playing. You’ll notice they all start their comments with “Since the TEXAS game…”
Would you guys like to play UT again? Sure, I would think so. Would UT like to play you guys again? That would be pretty cool as well. It’s a shame that 1-2 from the Big 12 don’t get to play each other regardless of “north-south” affiliation. Either one of us would mop the floor with Missouri. Actually, it woul be good for the ‘horns if you guys went to KC and somehow (I really don’t think this could happen) lost to Mizzou. Ugh!
OU HAS improved since Dallas. What’s not being talked about is, well, UT has improved some too. The image of the Blake Gideon INT drop is forever etched in my mind, but it wouldn’t come down to that if UT had actually played BOTH halves in Lubbock. Oh well, thank you OU for exposing the TT fraud…
by calonghorn on Nov 23, 2008 8:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If TT was a fraud and the beat the Longhorns...
…then what does that say about Texas?
by ccmachine on Nov 23, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That is the one thing
that is always omitted for the Texas fans arguement. They keep saying head to head, head to head. It’s like they think now that OU tossed Tech to the side, the results of Texas’ loss to Tech get’s the same treatment.
Since the 3-way tie I have been reading in on Burnt Orange Nation. What they don’t get is that if the 3-way tie stands, there is NO head to head arguement.
The bottom line is Texas had it’s chance to take care of business on the field. They did not do that. They lost to Tech. If they had won that game it would not matter. They did lose that game. Now OU will have it’s chance to take care of business on the field.
Bedlam baby.
by Sooner Vince on Nov 23, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Careful, ccmachine
That’s like saying Colorado wasn’t bad last year because they beat Oklahoma.
TT played the best game under Leach, the Horns played by far our worst game of the season, and we still lost because we dropped an INT and on a last second TD pass.
Furthermore, we can easily take that further: “If TT was a fraud and they beat the Longhorns, who also beat OU… what does that say about Oklahoma?”
by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 24, 2008 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are really going to compare a 10-1 TT team to a 6-7 Colorado Team?
You are absolutely correct on your last sentence. That is the way I see it. I believe that Texas beat Oklahoma because they were the better team on the field that day, TT beat Texas because they were the better team and then OU beat TT because they were the better team. That is why we are where we are.
Oklahoma demolishing Tech doesn’t erase the fact that Texas lost to them. There are three teams in this race and not just two. Remember, if OU falls to O-State on Saturday then it is the Red Raiders, and not the Longhorns, who move on to Kansas City.
by ccmachine on Nov 24, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course I'm not
I’m merely pointing to the logical conclusion of your statement. Texas Tech wasn’t a “fraud” in the sense that they’re a bad team, but I would not count them among the “elite” teams in the country. There’s nothing wrong with pointing that out. It doesn’t make OU a bad team because they lose to a bad team on the road, and it doesn’t make UT a “fraud” for losing to Texas Tech on the road either.
“There are three teams in this race and not just two.”
This is not entirely accurate any longer. Tech is still in the Big 12 title hunt, but that egg-laying in Norman effectively eliminated them from the national title discussion. Voters know that. They know that whomever they rank higher, between Texas and OU, will be the favorites to win the Big 12 title game in the case of a three way tie and therefore the favorites to go to the MNC. For the national championship, it is down to two teams, and two only, in the Big 12, and that is Texas and Oklahoma. Even if Tech goes to KC and beats Mizzou, I’d bet money that Penn State goes in ahead of them.
by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 24, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you in this
If OU loses Saturday night and Tech goes on to KC then no Big 12 team is going to Miami. My comment about the three teams is towards the Big 12 and not the BCS and the conference champion must be settled first.
As long as Tech has a chance to go to KC, and at this point I would say that they have a better chance than any of the three because OU has the toughest game on the schedule this weekend, then there are three teams in the race.
by ccmachine on Nov 24, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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